Just catching up from a business trip. Vanessa was clear best, but Steve was a worthy winner. Liz would have been a joke of a winner.

Don't love V's vote for Liz but I get it. All in all a very good season. Wouldn't mind seeing V on an All Stars season.

Vanessa would be the first person out of an all star season like every time

I stopped watching about 7/8 weeks ago and just saw who won. I'm shocked.

what happened? Did Steve grow balls or is this classic bitter jury?

Steve was up against one of the people he could beat

I disagree, do you take her out befofe somebody like Derek or Dick Donato or something?

Btw, really really enjoyed this season. Cast was not overly strong, but that made the season not only a lot of fun, but very surprising.

I think Vanessa would be first few out in an all star season for a few reasons. Her emotions/ being annoying and I also don't think she would be in the big brother crowd so she would have the least connections and probably no alliance going in. Of course she could realize this before hand and do something about it.

She'd be in trouble but might not be first one out maybe 2nd. If all stars is soon someone like James, John could also be there and will be pushing for her to go.

When making such predictions I think you forget how the game actually plays out or can play out. In the beginning, you're looking for easy targets usually or you're looking to evict someone who you think for sure would go after you - if Vanessa doesn't stir up any trouble and if she doesn't make anyone feel like she's their enemy, I don't see why she'd be a prioritized target for the house. And even if she is such a target, people may feel like going after someone else and leaving her for "others" to take out.

Based on this season, if I were to enter a house with her, I don't perceive her as someone I can't work with, she seemed loyal enough to me, so I would first try to get in with her rather than actively work to get her out.

Well Derek would just convince everybody that he never won before and wasn't much of a threat.

BB needs to raise the prize pool, otherwise the age of HGs is going stay young.

^^ fame whores will work for free

Yeah, but so will fans of the show.

I dont think the quality of the show would go up with a bigger prizepool.

lol at Vanessa being an early out in an allstar season. Randomness aside, overall she played a really loyal game and worked well within an alliance. Good players gonna recognize they can work with that.

As far as building BB relationships, she will take care of that in the coming months. Remember, she is Vegas based, connected, and loaded, so she will be able to show everybody a good time.

Also, everybody's gonna say shes a millionaire and wont get a vote in the end anyway, why bounce her.

Vanessa wasn't loyal to anyone, but herself, and good on her for it.

Also in terms of showing people a good time, I'm sure the best way she can do that is to leave people the **** alone when they come to Vegas. She seems nauseating to interact with.

Liztin is no more

shocker

From reality blurred:

The BB18 coaches/returnees

I have confirmed the identities of the four coaches who will return this season:

Audrey Middleton, Big Brother 17, 14th place
Derrick Levasseur, Big Brother 16 winner
Vanessa Rousso, Big Brother 17, third place
Ian Terry, Big Brother 14 winner

Don't know if this is 100% true or not. Don't know if it will be the same coaches rules as the last one. I'm surprised Derrick would come back.

hope that isn't true. really don't want another coaches bull****. and why the hell would audrey be back? she quit

i don't think that can be true. several of them have been tweeting recently, plus derrick is supposed to be doing some show on Discovery

Pretty sure it's B.S. lol @ Audrey being a coach.

Official cast reveal is Monday btw

Is the first episode Wednesday

afaik:

Cast reveal Monday the 13th

First episode Weds the 22nd, feeds go live after Thurs 23rd show

Ty

Yeah looks like its most likely bs.

I can't imagine they'd make Audrey a coach. I know it is a reality show and they need to hit ratings, but there has got to be some kind of standards for the quality of the coaches or else the whole concept is just pointless. It would be so brutal to get on Big Brother and then get Audrey as your coach.