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Old 09-16-2015, 12:30 AM   #6026
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

WOWOWOWOW she better evict Johnny
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:31 AM   #6027
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Yes she should
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:33 AM   #6028
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Vanessa is a lock to go home #4
I guess she could not use veto?
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:34 AM   #6029
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She's still a lock to go home. Steve and JMac will convince her not to use it byt heir fantasic gameplay and manipulation skills.
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:36 AM   #6030
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

so sick Vanessa stays alive.
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:36 AM   #6031
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She's still a lock to go home. Steve and JMac will convince her not to use it byt heir fantasic gameplay and manipulation skills.
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:36 AM   #6032
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Wow I feel like I know now exactly how all the people who wanted mike out last season on survivor must have felt. I have wanted Vanessa out for so long but every time it looks like it's gonna happen, she finds a way out. I assume she will get rid if jmac now and then Liz/Vanessa will try to take each other to F3. Congrats Vanessa
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:39 AM   #6033
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I guess she could not use veto?
I almost added unless she won the veto but figured even the nits wouldn't needed the obvious
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:46 AM   #6034
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Vanessa really has to keep Liz. Even if Steve won final 3 HOH he would almost have to bring Vanessa being she could sell Liz on having Austin Julia and Vanessa's vote just for starters. Then Meg James Jackie Becky all don't want Steve to win and Shelli is sorority sisters with her.
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:53 AM   #6035
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

It literally doesn't matter. If Liz was on the block and won POV it would be the same.
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:55 AM   #6036
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blah

she basically has to vote out john and now she is well positioned to make the final 2. huge win for her
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:56 AM   #6037
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Yea I lost my mind for second.

Yea if she keeps Liz I think Vanessa is favorite to win Part 1 of HOH. + Liz might take her.
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:57 AM   #6038
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honestly, Vanessa has won an absurd amount of comps this season.
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:58 AM   #6039
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4 HOH
3 POV?

Agree

Austin shouldn't be bitter he did promise he wouldn't win the game.
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:59 AM   #6040
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Yea I lost my mind for second.

Yea if she keeps Liz I think Vanessa is favorite to win Part 1 of HOH. + Liz might take her.
I think Liz might take her too but isn't Steve more likely to take Vanessa than Liz? Both are over 50% though. Liz hates Steve more than Vanessa if she plays emotionally and Liz has more guaranteed votes than Vanessa on Steve's side.
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:59 AM   #6041
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Vanessa seems like a lock to make F2 now, I don't see how Liz or Steve take each other. Maybe Liz could take Steve but I seriously doubt that would happen
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Old 09-16-2015, 01:01 AM   #6042
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I think steve is more likely to vote out Vanessa than Liz. He has told the camera a bunch of times he doesn't want to be against Vanessa in the final two

Also in his mind, he prob already lost the Austwins jury votes when he put them up. So it's not that big of a risk for him to take Liz and lose those votes anyways
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Old 09-16-2015, 01:01 AM   #6043
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Also Austin's last words of Vanessa you can't win now will sit with Liz.
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Old 09-16-2015, 01:01 AM   #6044
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Actually I remember him telling the camera that he's the Cody and Vanessa is the Derrick this season, except he won't take her to final two.

Hopefully he can win the last HOH
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Old 09-16-2015, 01:02 AM   #6045
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I think steve is more likely to vote out Vanessa than Liz. He has told the camera a bunch of times he doesn't want to be against Vanessa in the final two

Also in his mind, he prob already lost the Austwins jury votes when he put them up. So it's not that big of a risk for him to take Liz and lose those votes anyways
But he could think Vanessa lost Austins vote and he might convince the twins the same so that's one less guaranteed and up to 3.
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Old 09-16-2015, 01:02 AM   #6046
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I think Liz is the most likely to reach final 2 and get 2nd place
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Old 09-16-2015, 01:02 AM   #6047
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Plus Steve's words were with JMac as the Victoria not a Liz with a decent resume.
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Old 09-16-2015, 01:04 AM   #6048
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Who's vote does Liz get besides Austin and Julia? I'm having a hard time of thinking of anyone she has confidently
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Old 09-16-2015, 01:05 AM   #6049
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People at least see steve and Vanessa as strategic, I don't think anyone really considers Liz to be a great gameplayer
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Old 09-16-2015, 01:07 AM   #6050
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Veto was days comp.
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