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Old 09-15-2015, 09:18 PM   #6001
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

that was great

pretty good HOH result for Vanessa though. Liz winning would've been her worst case scenario
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Old 09-15-2015, 09:19 PM   #6002
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The moment Vanessa ****ed herself was when she won HoH. There was no possible way to come out of this week in a good position after she did that. I think she is out the door this week if she doesn't win veto.
ya I said the same thing when it happened. just do not understand why she thought that was smart
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Old 09-15-2015, 09:20 PM   #6003
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When feeds come back at midnight, will POV have already been played or not? Or is POV tomorrow?
idk if we have any way of knowing this
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Old 09-15-2015, 09:27 PM   #6004
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I don't know if J-Mac boots Vanessa if he wins veto, I don't think J-Mac even knows what he is doing. He goes from seriously proposing to throw the veto to Austin/Liz, to wanting to vote to keep Austin to piss Vanessa off, to (I assume) making a deal with Vanessa to boot Austin. I could see Vanessa talking him into keeping her.

Liz I'd guess is out for revenge for Austin. Though she doesn't seem much like she is very protective of Austin so she may not go for the revenge the way other showmances would. The problem is Liz/J-mac both are pretty non-strategic so it is anyone's guess what logic they will decide to use for their decision making.

Winning HOH was just a bad decision for Vanessa last week. I guess she is in a worse spot in terms of survival for THIS week after booting Austin, though I think now if she makes F2, she beats everyone left in the house.
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Old 09-15-2015, 09:32 PM   #6005
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

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that was great

pretty good HOH result for Vanessa though. Liz winning would've been her worst case scenario
I don't know, apparently Steve was talking to himself a lot on the feeds last week and kept saying he was taking Vanessa out at f4 if possible
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Old 09-15-2015, 09:35 PM   #6006
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

That's why it's good for her. He can't vote.
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Old 09-15-2015, 09:35 PM   #6007
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Derrick just tweeted that Austin's exiting "Jury votes" comments could've just won Vanessa the game. It is true if they believe what Austin said that Vanessa has no shot with the jury, they'll want to keep her.

Steve definitely will not bring her to F2 though. J-Mac or Liz who knows.
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Old 09-15-2015, 09:47 PM   #6008
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I don't know, apparently Steve was talking to himself a lot on the feeds last week and kept saying he was taking Vanessa out at f4 if possible
that's exactly why it's good for her that steve is HOH and not the one voting
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Old 09-15-2015, 09:50 PM   #6009
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though I think now if she makes F2, she beats everyone left in the house.
that's a pretty strange conclusion to make after she just pissed everyone off this week
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Old 09-15-2015, 09:57 PM   #6010
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

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Derrick just tweeted that Austin's exiting "Jury votes" comments could've just won Vanessa the game. It is true if they believe what Austin said that Vanessa has no shot with the jury, they'll want to keep her.
Steve's a super fan though so I don't think he'll fall for the Dr. Will strategy of "everyone hates me so take me to the final 2". I think Vanessa's only shot of continuing on is winning pov.
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:33 PM   #6011
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I have to correct myself though because I forgot that the POV winner has the only vote, and if Liz wins POV she may well decide to boot Johnny over Vanessa. Particularly after Vanessa works her over.
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:43 PM   #6012
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that's a pretty strange conclusion to make after she just pissed everyone off this week
All she did was piss off Austin, and Liz to a lesser extent. I just don't see any way the jury gives the win to Liz, Steve, or J-Mac over Vanessa unless it is Dan Gheesling jury level of bitterness. It is abundantly clear who the best player of the season was. It was possible before that James/Meg thought Austin was the mastermind & best player, but Vanessa just ended that.
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:49 PM   #6013
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I haven't thought this out much, so thoughts on this. If you're Liz and Vanessa, do you pull the jury card together on Steve and try to force his hand to make it 3 on 1 for veto.

If Vanessa can smooth Liz over, going to Steve and telling him straight up, bitter juror appearance or not, if he takes JMac to finals that Liz will break up with Austin if he doesn't nominate JMac. Either way, it's all about the veto. You insist he plays for a final 3 with them or else. Can you at least convince him to throw veto? Twins, Austin, and vanessa make 4. You tell Steve you know Shelli and Becky love Jmac. All he needs is one of them to win, and he'll probably get both.

I think Steve still takes his chances, but what % does that work assuming you can get Liz on board? The hardest part would be convincing Liz that she needs you if youre Vanessa. She can get that deal on her own considering Steve wants Liz in final 3 anyway.

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Old 09-15-2015, 10:58 PM   #6014
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Liz and Vanessa both want a female to win this year. The women as a group stated that in the beginning of the season. And Liz and Vanessa had that conversation again a couple of days ago. So that may or may not factor in any final 3 considerations.
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Old 09-15-2015, 11:01 PM   #6015
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

My best guesses:

Steve or Johnny wins POV, Vanessa is gone

Liz wins POV, Johnny is gone

Vanessa wins POV, the house implodes
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Old 09-15-2015, 11:53 PM   #6016
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

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My best guesses:

Steve or Johnny wins POV, Vanessa is gone

Liz wins POV, Johnny is gone

Vanessa wins POV, the house implodes
ya I think this is def the case. depends on how bitter Liz is but I think she'll go all girl power with it.
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Old 09-15-2015, 11:53 PM   #6017
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

In about 6 more minutes I am either gonna start fistpumping or crying, assuming veto has already been played
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:06 AM   #6018
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Feeds back no word yet.
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:08 AM   #6019
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

My guess is Liz won. Vanessa isn't interrogating everyone and Liz seems to be in good spirits considering.
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:09 AM   #6020
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Maybe it didn't happen yet?
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:13 AM   #6021
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

dont think it happened yet either
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:18 AM   #6022
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

The problem is that Austin is gone and he's the one that always reminded people to wear the veto medallion for the live feeders
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:20 AM   #6023
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Vanessa should've made Johnny think she was evicting Austin but evicted Steve. Johnny would have no choice but to evict Liz/Austin over her and Liz/Austin would evict Johnny over her too.
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:30 AM   #6024
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Vanessa won
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:30 AM   #6025
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Vanessa won
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