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Old 09-13-2015, 08:02 PM   #5951
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

jmac is either a closeted gay kid, or he desperately wants to be a bro in the worst way.

First he fell for Jeff, then he absolutely worshipped Clay, and now he thinks him and Austin are Hans and Franz with their workouts. He is really attracted to the alpha males for a straight nerd.

If he goes through with evicting the only player who would certainly take him to the final 2, hes a fool for love, because there is no other explanation.
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Old 09-13-2015, 08:18 PM   #5952
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jmac is either a closeted gay kid, or he desperately wants to be a bro in the worst way.

First he fell for Jeff, then he absolutely worshipped Clay, and now he thinks him and Austin are Hans and Franz with their workouts. He is really attracted to the alpha males for a straight nerd.

If he goes through with evicting the only player who would certainly take him to the final 2, hes a fool for love, because there is no other explanation.

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Old 09-13-2015, 08:44 PM   #5953
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If he goes through with evicting the only player who would certainly take him to the final 2, hes a fool for love, because there is no other explanation.
Steve has done an absolutely terrible job at convincing John that he will take him to the final 2 though. Steve tells the cameras that he is going to cut Vanessa next week but his game talks with John lately have been very coy.
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Old 09-13-2015, 08:46 PM   #5954
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Yeah I'm not convinced Steve would take John to F2.
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Old 09-13-2015, 08:49 PM   #5955
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I love this segment of Vanessa looking for a REASON.
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Old 09-13-2015, 09:00 PM   #5956
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This is why I hate vanessa, she is freaking out on Liz because Liz agreed to break a tie with Steve...like wtf Vanessa you know people lie in this game right? If I were in the house I would never deal with Vanessa's interrogations without going off on her
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Old 09-13-2015, 09:37 PM   #5957
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FU CBS for placing Frankie on my TV screen again
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Old 09-13-2015, 11:31 PM   #5958
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Yeah that was the worst.
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Old 09-14-2015, 12:39 AM   #5959
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Vanessa winning HOH because she could be a replacement nominee has to be a top ten dumbest move of all time
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Old 09-14-2015, 01:16 AM   #5960
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

When do they usually cut the feeds for the season? Once it's final 3?
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Old 09-14-2015, 01:17 AM   #5961
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Vanessa hasn't had the best week which might cost her unless she wins POV.

I don't really understand why John plans to keep Austin but whatever.

Austin big favorite to win I would think.
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Old 09-14-2015, 01:20 AM   #5962
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I guess John might vote Austin out.
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Old 09-14-2015, 01:24 AM   #5963
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When do they usually cut the feeds for the season? Once it's final 3?
I don't know when they permanently go off, but they'll be down tomorrow morning until the next show on Tuesday night because apparently they do a taped eviction next.
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Old 09-14-2015, 01:29 AM   #5964
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Jesus this episode was a rough watch. So much bad play by Vanessa. Drives me crazy. She ****ing has this psychological NEED to be in control, and it's like... there was zero reason to be in control this week. Just sit the **** back and relax.
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Old 09-14-2015, 06:30 AM   #5965
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Vanessa claims to be a superfan right? But it was obvious when Frankie entered the house that she had no idea who he was. Why lie about it?
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Old 09-14-2015, 06:33 AM   #5966
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Steve has done an absolutely terrible job at convincing John that he will take him to the final 2 though. Steve tells the cameras that he is going to cut Vanessa next week but his game talks with John lately have been very coy.
I agree. I think it's prolly part 2 reasons. 1. He thinks the last thing in the world would be for jmac to evict him so he doesn't need to campaign to him right now. 2. Steve doesn't want to give his word to a guy he likes that he will take him to final 2 when he may consider liz as well, but jmac is a decent option for final 2 as well. Steve's game is he doesn't like to lie to people so doesn't tell them anything as he realizes it's a game and he's gonna do what's best for his game always. So doesn't want to make false promises he knows he may not keep.

But he should be talking more with jmac convincing him that jmac is the last person he'd look to be evicting. That it would make no sense for him to evict jmac because he's his closest ally that are not targeting each other, and that jmac is a good person to take to final 2 because he didn't do anything in the game for 2 months.

I think jmac may have delusions that he(himself) has played a good game and people are scared to take him now so he wants to get to final 3 any way he can and just try to win final 3 comps so he can pick someone to get to final 2. The boy is lost. And now jmac will make the dumbest move in a long time if he evicts steve. I think jmac is not an intelligent person on some level. It's weird because you would think he is smart but in this game he acts and thinks like the mind of a naive teenage boy. Started out the game being a scared kid not talking to anyone, then feeling honored clay would first use him as a guinea pig pawn and then clay and jeff taking him into their alliance. Having no idea they never really has his back as an equal ally. Then became an angry kid with blind rage at vanessa because vanessa took out jeff. Then same with austwins. Now he wants to f over the one person that has never f'd him in steve. If it was a good game move i could understand it but it makes no sense and proves he isn't very smart. Hopefully he gets talked down from steve and vanessa. But steve and vanessa may not think he would do it as it's so dumb to do. Austin must be thinking jmac is nuts. Jmac trying real hard to help austin win bb17. Maybe Austin is jmac's brother instead of clay like vanessa thought.

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Old 09-14-2015, 07:14 AM   #5967
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jmac is either a closeted gay kid, or he desperately wants to be a bro in the worst way.

First he fell for Jeff, then he absolutely worshipped Clay, and now he thinks him and Austin are Hans and Franz with their workouts. He is really attracted to the alpha males for a straight nerd.

If he goes through with evicting the only player who would certainly take him to the final 2, hes a fool for love, because there is no other explanation.
Totally agree. He loved jeff, then loved clay, going as far as to deeply cry for clay when he got evicted???? Might not be gay(but you never know) but he did have an odd devotion to them that he had to nobody else. While they only saw him as a very loose ally or a person they were working with loosely. Also gave Austin an awkward hug when jmac got back in the game. Most guys woulda gave a fist pump or handshake, not a full on hug. Not judging him but just saying i noticed it too and didn't understand it. It could just be he wishes he were them if he could change who he was. I sense depression in jmac.

If he evicts steve though it think it's just more out of stupidy. He doesn't know what to do and wonders why people wanted to evict him. Decides it's because of his steve duo so will get rid of steve thinking he'd be safe then.

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Old 09-14-2015, 08:49 AM   #5968
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Jmac to Vanessa on who Steve would take to final 2 if jmac/steve/vanessa in final 3, vanessa or jmac: "if steve chooses based on loyalty he would take me(jmac). If he makes the decision based on who he'd beat he'd take you(vanessa)." This is the dumbest statement he's made all season. Vanessa didn't say a word but looked flabbergasted. He thinks Steve would think steve would be more likely to beat vanessa in a final 2 than him(jmac). I knew jmac had a false sense of thinking he's played an awesome game and a favorite/threat to win against most, which is absurd, but to take vanessa(the one with the best resume for winning/the favorite) of all people and say steve would beat vanessa but not himself(jmac) in borderline insane. Maybe this is why he wants to evict steve as he thinks steve would take vanessa over him to final 2. And why jmac is content to go to final 3 with austin and liz as he thinks nobody would want to take him to final 2 anyway and he'd have to win the finals comps to get there. So choosing Austin and Liz because he thinks he's more likely to win the comps against them.

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Old 09-14-2015, 08:50 AM   #5969
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Vanessa claims to be a superfan right? But it was obvious when Frankie entered the house that she had no idea who he was. Why lie about it?
Because they are told to
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Old 09-14-2015, 02:19 PM   #5970
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haven't been able to follow the feeds too much this week. who does it look like is going home?
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Old 09-14-2015, 02:29 PM   #5971
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haven't been able to follow the feeds too much this week. who does it look like is going home?
I haven't been watching them much, but based on what I've seen it's still up in the air because Johnny is playing both sides. I saw feeds the other night that Johnny was plotting with Austin to save him, but I read an update that he also told Steve he will vote to save him if he can convince Vanessa to do so too.

We likely won't know for sure until the show tomorrow night because the feeds are blacked out until then.
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Old 09-14-2015, 02:32 PM   #5972
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it sounds like steve was saying he'd vote out vanessa (over both john and liz) next eviction if he gets the chance. i would love to see that
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:43 PM   #5973
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it sounds like steve was saying he'd vote out vanessa (over both john and liz) next eviction if he gets the chance. i would love to see that
That would look like his best move as he has a much better chance of beating either jmac or liz than vanessa. Vanessa told austin she would vote for jmac over steve in a final 2. If she really means that she's being dumb. Her reasoning is that jmac won comps when his ass was on the line to stay in the game where steve hasn't done much. Austin countered with the obvious good argument that jmac slept for 2 months and did nothing/was nobodies target while steve was playing the game and in our alliance. She admitted that was a very good point. Maybe she's just tryng to build up jmac so Austin doesn't decide to take jamc over her to final 3.

Steve has played a good game. I don't know wtf vanessa is talking about. He's strategically threw comps when he knew it was a good time to. And won the hoh or veto comps when he felt he needed to. He saved his alliances asses by targeting the goblins finally making a big move. then made another big move of being the first to breakup austwins. This all while jmac was sleeping and wondering why steve was targeting goblins instead of vanessa lol. Steve's game is more sound and safe to go deep and win this game in general. He read Dan's book and followed past champions of not winning hoh's to avoid blood. Steve knew final 6 was the hoh to win so he could win 6 and 4 hoh's. So he won 6. Vanessa wins 5 which is dubious/questionable strategy. This is where steve excels, knowing what and when to win comps and when to throw. And knowing who to target when.

Vanessa's strategy coming into the game has been bathing in blood which on the surface is a poor strategy. It's ballsy and fun to watch but not very sound. She deserves to win because she overcame all her blood/hated in the house by strategically manipulating people in the house and by winning tons of hoh's allowing her to control the game. But i don't get why vanessa would vote for jmac over steve when steve's played one of the best games. Not to mention she should vote for steve out of loyalty since she worked the whole game with him and had a final 2 together. While jmac was sleeping and occasionally waking up and deciding to evict vanessa.

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Old 09-14-2015, 04:00 PM   #5974
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One good thing about Darkcheck's posts is that 90% of them are walls of text and are easy to identify and skip.
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Old 09-14-2015, 04:55 PM   #5975
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Vanessa claims to be a superfan right? But it was obvious when Frankie entered the house that she had no idea who he was. Why lie about it?
I don't think shes a super fan but has applied for several years. Just guessing but I'm guessing shes only watched the show not feeds or anything. I'm pretty sure she watched last season so she knows who Frankie is.
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