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Originally Posted by DarkCheck
Not right. When what i think most likely to happen i base it on things that show that to be most likely the case. For instance if Austin said to liz "i'm making deals with everyone but the only one i'm going to honor is steve."(not saying he said this, just saying hypothetically) then i would feel it right to say "Austin's main person outside the austwins is Steve that they want to work with." I would say thi because Austin's told his closest ally his feelings. Where i wouldn't say "Austwins person they're gonna work with will be jmac." As nothing has been said or done to make a good educated guess to make me think that. You're doing the latter. Picking a random choice for Austin and saiyng that's what he'll do. There has been no proof to back up this theory. Do you see the difference? It's ok to make wild speculations but if you say them like you already know his plans you should admit "i have nothing to base this on, just my gut feeling." Instead of using it in an argument to prove why your theory makes more sense like it's bases on something that we've seen.
You're second statement is again pure speculation. At least it's a little better as there have been times seeing james frustrated with vanessa. But not enough to make a statement that you know he has a better relationship with all 3 than vanessa. Whatever he says to meg doesn't mean much as he knows she's mad at vanessa so he's telling her what she wants to hear to make her feel good. I haven't watched the feeds super thorough as of late but i have never seen james say he won't work with vanessa everytime meg says "vanessa wants me out so she can work with you." He just says "you think?" then she says "it's fine" meaning she won't hold it against him if he does work with her. Why would she think it possible he would if he hates her so much? The truth is he doesn't hate her. That it's just been the way the house fell they've been on opposite sides. But things change as people go home and their can be opportunities for people to work together.
Again, how do you know james hates vanessa? He sat up in her hoh room for hours shooting the breeze and laughing together. Doesn't sound like someone he hates.
because i watch the feeds and pay attention. all you have to do is listen to his convos alone with meg
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Originally Posted by DarkCheck
Last statement again not proven true or based on hard evidence. Where has steve ever said "i want james out next." i think he was seen alone to the camera saying "i'm going for austwins" earlier in the week. All he said was "what i should do next week. What should we do about james?" Vanessa answered "to target him or not to target him, prolly should target him. That doesn't mean he wants that. Just spitballing ideas to see where vanessa's head's at and consider what to do with him. He'll also consider everyone else in the house expect jmac and prolly vanessa.
it literally just happened like 20 minutes ago. steve and vanessa were running through scenarios where meg goes and james goes next, and they were happy with all the outcomes
whether they decide thats the best option or not is irrelevant; clearly james is one of the last people vanessa is loyal to
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Originally Posted by DarkCheck
Get a clue? Why get personal? Have i gotten personal with you? I could come back with a good insult but i'll refrain from that bs and just discuss the facts of the show. You're acting like the other side of the house acts towards vanessa. That they're pissed at her because whenever they try to discredit her/lie about her she proves them wrong and makes them get mad. So they decide they want to evict he/hate her because they can't outplay her.
you brushed off everything i said as saying its "my personal preference" to get vanessa out, and disregarding all of the analysis i presented. your response to all of my arguments was "thats your opinion" and "thats speculation." so w/e. if thats how you look at it then i don't know why any of us bother analyzing anything, since we obv don't know whats gonna happen with 100% certainty
everyone said you were the biggest vanessa fanboy, which I've mostly ignored, but when you step in to say james has no reason to go after vanessa (after agreeing that my analysis that he didn't
have to go after the austwins was good) is just ridiculous. this whole week happened. james does not like vanessa. vanessa does not like james. its insane that i even have to defend and argue these points
and when i say that, it doesn't have to mean on a personal level. it just means relative to everyone else. they are both very low on each other's totem pole. thats how it is. it'd be hard to come up with any other two people in the house, besides the austwins + john, who are more against each other than james and vanessa are. maybe you turned on the feeds and saw a 5 min conversation with james and vanessa, but that really doesn't mean anything. every time james talks with meg, they both express how they don't like vanessa or the way she handled this week at all. every time vanessa talks with the austwins or with steve or john, her scenarios involve james leaving sooner than later. as I'm typing this its still insane to me that i have to spell this out for you. vanessa and james do not like each other relative to anyone else