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Old 09-01-2015, 08:58 PM   #5351
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Everyone but jmac has a 4 man team with the austwins. Even he was aligned with them last week. Not sure why you think james feels him being the 4th will be more honored then their deals with steve and vanessa who have closer ties with the twins and austin and worked with them the whole game? Where if james works with jmac, steve, and vanessa it has more a chance to be real as they need each other to fight the austwins. Also even if austwins chose him over vanessa and steve he would still be a solid 4th whell/the most expendable for them. Where with the other players that's not for sure. He could move up the food chain.

It's also clear as day james needs people to work with and taking out someone he can work with is questionable. He may choose to. Or he may choose to evict jmac, steve, or the austwins. I didn't say it was controversial, i said it's not necessarily what he will do or should do. But I guess it is controversial of you if you seem to think that's his only play.
because he can more easily work with literally anyone other than vanessa. he is already tight with the austwins and austin is more loyal to him than any of the non-twins imo
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Old 09-01-2015, 09:01 PM   #5352
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Thanks! Around the same price? When does their season start?
BBCAN Live feeds are free Season starts in the winter. BB live feeds are great when you're playing poker.

But they're a pain in the ass sometimes because they don't have a tight schedule like when Jeffish come on you knows it's a comp. On BBCAN sometimes they make them do these little tasks and feeds will be down for a few hours. It's free so can't complain too much.
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Old 09-01-2015, 09:08 PM   #5353
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because he can more easily work with literally anyone other than vanessa. he is already tight with the austwins and austin is more loyal to him than any of the non-twins imo
All of this is just your opinion. Complete speculation. Vanessa is the only person between jmac, steve, and her who has offered to work with him. So i don't see why you feel he can more easily work with anyone other than vanessa. But especially saying Austin is more loyal to james than anyone not a twin is a total speculation with no proof. Austin is very close to steve and vanessa. He likes hanging out in the house with james but on a game level(and even more perosnal level) i would argue he may be closer to them. Really if up to him he would prolly choose whoever he thinks would be best for his end game. And vanessa being so hated in jury now he might feel it's ok if he sat next to her in final 2. Though ideally i would guess he'd want to take Liz over everyone.

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Old 09-01-2015, 09:30 PM   #5354
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BBCAN Live feeds are free Season starts in the winter. BB live feeds are great when you're playing poker.

But they're a pain in the ass sometimes because they don't have a tight schedule like when Jeffish come on you knows it's a comp. On BBCAN sometimes they make them do these little tasks and feeds will be down for a few hours. It's free so can't complain too much.
Cool. Thanks!
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:15 PM   #5355
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Vanessa telling Austin people want to work with us because we're hated in jury. That they blame both of us for all the evictions. If she's just saying that to him so he thinks she thinks she can take him to final 2 i respect her try in saying that. If she really believes that she's way wrong. Austin would get credit for running the twins and he's had social and game relationships with the other side of the house. Would have 2 votes from twins to start unless against one of them. Austin wins against most in a final 2 imo. Steve only has jackie blood which she might even have forgave him as she blamed vanessa for it. So i wouldn't want to sit next to steve either. Jmac would be an ideal person to sit next to i think. People will hold it against him that he didn't talk game for almost 2 months of the season.
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:17 PM   #5356
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I see Pillar is still very articulate with her thoughts.
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:18 PM   #5357
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Vanessa is screwed unless somehow everyone in jury votes based on gameplay. None of these jurors seem to. If she gets to the end she will even have Austwins mad at her because she will have a role in their evictions as well and they will be even more bitter than the already bitter jury.
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:40 PM   #5358
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Vanessa is screwed unless somehow everyone in jury votes based on gameplay. None of these jurors seem to. If she gets to the end she will even have Austwins mad at her because she will have a role in their evictions as well and they will be even more bitter than the already bitter jury.
Funny thing is her best chance to win would to have all 3 austwins plus steve in jury. That would be 4 votes then would only need one from shelli, becky, james or whoever. But to keep their votes she can't be the one pulling the trigger ideally. They may vote for her as long as she doesn't do it til final 4 or 5. If she betrays steve i think she still might get his vote as he respects the game move and doesn't decide on personal bs. I think vanessa's best chance would be against jmac. If not i think she would have jmac's vote(unless she betrays him soon and he knows it. Or if she was against steve maybe) so maybe against julia she could win as well. Her votes being Steve, jmac, shelli, becky, james. I know becky and james? But when becky left she said vanessa is a good game player so she may vote for that plus she left on bad terms with austwins. James because he would respect that vanessa deserved it on gameplay and vanessa's always been kind to him even it be a bumpy road. Where with julia he's had no real relationship except through austin. And julia has done nothing in this game except cruise on by playing austin and vanessa's game. So that being said she might beat Liz too. Liz has won some comps but everything else i mentioned about julia for the same reasons.

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Old 09-01-2015, 10:41 PM   #5359
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I understand people don't like Vanessa but I still don't think they should be this bitter even tho it seems like they are.
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:45 PM   #5360
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Bitter juries are the worst.
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Old 09-01-2015, 10:50 PM   #5361
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I understand people don't like Vanessa but I still don't think they should be this bitter even tho it seems like they are.
If they voted on who deserved to win vanessa wins in unanimous decision. She's made the most and advised/persuaded the most decisions made in the game. She beat the odds of having the whole house against her to sit in a final 2 chair. She's won more comps that everyone except james. And she has 3 hoh's so far. Which also helped her to control outcomes/evictions the most weeks.

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Old 09-01-2015, 11:40 PM   #5362
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We're all on the outside looking in. If you're rooting for anyone but the Austwins, you gotta know the proper move is to evict Julia on Thurs. I understand the 5 other houseguests have their own agenda. But, now is the time for the big move. The house flipping move. And, it only takes 1 of the 5 to not hint at it, but, to voice it. And they've got 48 hours for it to be voiced, ruminated on, then acted on. Just sayin...
Still holds true.
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Old 09-01-2015, 11:54 PM   #5363
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This Vanessa/Steve talk is weird.

Steve asking what happens if I take James out next week? Vanessa- were final 6 with me, you, John, Austin, Liz, Julia. You can't play HOH but I can and I'm okay doing what needs to be done.

They can't even talk with names b/c they don't fully trust each other. wtf is going on.

This talk better be a joke and Steve plan is still Austin/Liz.
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:19 AM   #5364
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All of this is just your opinion. Complete speculation. Vanessa is the only person between jmac, steve, and her who has offered to work with him. So i don't see why you feel he can more easily work with anyone other than vanessa. But especially saying Austin is more loyal to james than anyone not a twin is a total speculation with no proof. Austin is very close to steve and vanessa. He likes hanging out in the house with james but on a game level(and even more perosnal level) i would argue he may be closer to them. Really if up to him he would prolly choose whoever he thinks would be best for his end game. And vanessa being so hated in jury now he might feel it's ok if he sat next to her in final 2. Though ideally i would guess he'd want to take Liz over everyone.
right. everything everyone says is their opinion

james has a better relationship with austin, john, and steve than he does with vanessa. obviously he can't work with the twins without austin so that doesn't really matter, but your disagreement really makes no sense and its not speculation at all, its observation. have you watched this week? james hates vanessa

not to mention vanessa + steve were literally just talking in hoh and would be happy to see james go out next

so get a clue
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:20 AM   #5365
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people outside were yelling "Austin wants Julia out"

while james + meg + john were out there

amazing
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:20 AM   #5366
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and they all heard it very clearly
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:22 AM   #5367
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Someone just yelled over the fence that Austin wants Julia out. J-Mac, Meg & James were shocked.

Just now they sent all the house guests inside because someone had a megaphone outside.
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:25 AM   #5368
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it'll be interesting to see what john does with this information
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:46 AM   #5369
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Nothing will change but maybe Meg will at least try something.
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:56 AM   #5370
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New developments right now because john seems in to vote out Julia
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:57 AM   #5371
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#operationtrojanhorse is underway
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:58 AM   #5372
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Your forgetting they need a 3rd vote which never gonna happen.

Its either John, Steve or not gonna happen.
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:59 AM   #5373
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Why do you say John is in? He is telling James what he wants to hear.
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Old 09-02-2015, 01:02 AM   #5374
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I think he's being a lot more invested in the conversation than normal. We'll see if he runs this back to steve and Vanessa afterwards
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Old 09-02-2015, 01:02 AM   #5375
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He's going to tell Vanessa everything. Their whole plan was for John to do this so he can influence James if he wins HOH.
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