I wonder if production will drop some hints in DR if these 2 dopes aren't smart enough to vote out Julia over Meg

Vanessa tried to reassure Julia by saying that if she does end up going home, she would give her $10k. Which got her in trouble in the DR, so apparently they are starting to crack down on her.

What % chance you give everyone in HOH if comp before/after?

Steve 30%
Austin/John 20%
Liz 15%
Meg, Julia, James 5%

Isn't Julia really good at days because Vanessa drills her the most? If production wants to set it up for James or Meg to win they can use the "what day did BOB end" question which was 43 or whatever but Vanessa and Austwins think it was earlier because that was the last actual BOB not the day of the "reset." We will be able to tell by the way the question is worded to see if they rigged it for James/Meg.

Production will rig it for Steve to win this HOH to take a shot at the Austwins. Last night Steve said he had to win this HOH and started studying the days. So look for this HOH comp to be something with days questions related. Perfect timing to rig it since Vanessa can't play. So if something's fishy on Thursday, remember you heard it here first folks

Hate to say it but best result this Thursday is Steve winning HOH especially since it's a DE. He might pass out from a panic attack if he wins and had to do noms right there.

I heard Vanessa talk to them about that but she knows both days depending how its worded.

I missed this. Makes sense.

I love that nobody sees the irony of all this "production will rig it" talk not one day after Vanessa was satan for disturbing the virginal white purity of BB.

hahaha James thinks Austin is fighting to get John up.

Meg and James think Austin/twins have been controlling Vanessa all game.

Pretty sure they are practically showing the HoH comp In real time. Don't think it even took 20 minutes

Really hope these two clowns wake up and save sweet Meg on Thursday. Would be the best move for them as James/Meg will still go after Vanessa. Steve and Jmac would be in a great spot.

bbgossip made this gif of vanessa's crazy eyes.

Vanessa asking Steve right now what would he do if he wins HOH this week.

Steve: uhh...ah...I don't know
Vanessa: It's getting late in the game we have to start talking about it. Would you target the Austwins or keep them to go after Johnny Mac?
Steve: uhh...ah...I don't know
Vanessa: Steve you have to take some risks in this game, you can't win the game without taking any risks.

Why is she aligning with him again? She's practically begging him to give her assurances that he's on board with her to go after the Austwins.
He's now changing the topic once again as his default (talking about previous seasons)

It's going to be so tilting when they take out Meg. I hate their passive play style when it's this far in the game. How do they even rationalise giving Austin and the Twins a 50% shot of winning the next HoH? That would keep them intact going in to the final 6.

It shouldn't even be too hard to convince Vanessa. I guess they think that Austwins are targeting James next but that still means one of Vanessa, John and Steve will be sitting next to James on the block and if James wins veto one of them is done. Plus the Austwins will control two votes plus the HoH tiebreaker.

At final 6 even if the Austwins are targeted and occupy the block the member not on the block still has a chance to win veto and take off someone. At that point only 3 people are voting and they will compromise two of them.

Tbf she hasn't been the best ally to Steve so if I'm in Steve's position I'm feeling pretty uncomfortable with this line of questioning. That is until Julia is actually on the block and Vanessa can't put me up.

Jmac and Steve should constantly be assuring Vanessa she should put up Julia, and that they would vote out Meg, then the second Julia gets nominated, they should go form a 4-person alliance with James and Meg, vote out Julia, then play with a 4-2 advantage in the next hoh comp against Austin and Liz . easy game

I honestly don't think they will go against Vanessa.

Good point. She was interrogating him somewhat in an intimidating manner. Hoping this is the case and when Julia goes up he really starts talking. However I don't have much faith in him to take a shot because he hasn't really spoken to James or Meg. Meg assumes that she's dead in the water if Julia goes up because they believe that they will never have Steve's vote.

Right now only Steve and the live feeders know that he's putting up Liz + Austin if he wins HOH this week. He hasn't told anyone including Jmac. Hopefully he tells them before the live show on Thursday. Even still, I think it's absurd to leave all 3 Austwins in the game on Thursday where they'll have a 50% shot at winning HOH. Could be another letdown DE week.

Actually the more I think about it, you're right. I've completely forgotten that it was Vanessa who didn't use the veto and blew up on Steve telling him he doesn't have her vote and he's leaving! LOL, this was just this past Thursday.
She was downright ****ty to him most of the week.

I gotta throw Steve a bone here.

I mean if you listen to a conversation between Steve and Vanessa last week when he tried to come clean and didn't even have his facts in order. He forgot what week him and John made the alliance with Austin/twins.

Steve knows Vanessa has great memory so you can't really tell her certain stuff b/c she will rat you out if she needs to.

This. So much this.

In theory its 4-2 but really gonna be like 2-2.

It would be Steve + Jmac + James + (grandma) vs Austin + Liz

Jmac isn't too bad in comps, he's been close in a lot of them and won some vetos. So it would be more like 3-2 no?

james offering meg the veto for sex