I'm thinking the same. She'll be too scared now to put up Julia. Jmac leaving is the safest route right now because Steve won't do anything. I think Vanessa legit wants a final 3 with Steve/Jmac and vice versa but they are so scared to be honest to each other. Very weird dynamic.

And by putting up Jmac vs. Meg the Austwins will have to decide who leaves, and the blood will be on their hands. I think she'll sacrifice Jmac as a potential ally just to play it safe.

They don't know how to explain why its better to put Julia up. So Vanessa pretty has to figure it by herself.

Liz and Julia were talking alone and they're really mad at Vanessa for even considering putting up Julia as a pawn. They should be, it's ludicrous that she would be considering keeping Jmac safe if she was indeed loyal to the Austwins.

Vanessa knows what the best move is. She's playing a game that is way too safe and wants to have every base covered leaving the blood on someone else's hands. That's why she has to come up with a 'reason' for everything and why she's so frantic on every one of her HOHs.

Damn.. looks like I picked a bad weekend to actually have a life and miss the feeds.

I can respect a bit of Vanessa's strategic sense this game surrounded by buffoons. I loathe everything else about her because her social game is one of the worst of all time. However if she doesn't take this opportunity to break up Austwins all you Vanessa stans have seriously got to just shut the **** up. Liz needs to just get packing.


Vanessa is seriously fugly. Like beaten in the face with a tire iron.

How is Steve a super fan? Dude never talks game and when he does he talks in questions without giving his take on things. He's always saying "ok ok" and "let me ask you this". It's like he doesn't wanna say what's in his head but wants the other person to bring it up

Vanessa is not fugly lol. She may not be as fine looking as Sarah (BBCAN 3) but she is attractive.

i mean i think thats intentional. its similar to how derrick talked to people. that way people can't run around and say you said this about this person and you said that about that person, etc

james went up to talk to Vanessa and she's blowing up on him. Completely freaked outon him when he told her calmly she's playing too hard. She is completely nuts. This is a must watch!

She needs to locked up in an insane asylum OMG! How is James showing this much restraint?

poor james

More like poor Vanessa. This idiot wins pov and made her cry

Steve's explanation to the twins about how a crescent moon is formed was bizarre.

Vanessa told James that when it's someone else's HOH she always volunteers to be a pawn.

The self-delusion is strong with this one lol

That was really poor play on Vanessa's part.

james is right there, and he's more than willing to address the elephant in the room that is the Austwins, but Vanessa is so irrational that he can't because he has to worry that he'll get thrown under the bus over it. He obviously wants Meg to stay, but is amenable even if she goes.

Such a natural alliance with them both being good at absolute opposite things. You can tell James just wants to address the Austwins target, but Vanessa is so shook that she's missing the boat.

Her continual "I wish we could have worked something out" talk in the past tense is moronic. You're both here, both arent leaving this week, and both need to bust up the three-headed beast. She was so disheartened at him winning POV, and just assumed she's dead to him, that she's missing an opportunity. No reason to wish you could have formed a relationship and talk about what could have been in retrospect. Its right there before you.

She's so off-kilter with regulation of her emotions. Flying off the handle over a perceived slight that was non-existent. Usually, she eventually comes back around. Hopefully she realizes that lining up things to take run at Austwins isnt a next week problem. It's an immediate issue.

she's not trying to go after the Austwins whatsoever. It's just not on her radar

Her more immediate issue is meg and james as they made it clear she's their target. Where austwins aren't likely to target her just yet. So she needs to break up that duo. Just because meg can't win comps(and she can win a mind comp) she's still a strong player in talks and keepin her in with james to influence the austwins is bad. I think she's out of her mind if she wants to evict jmac over meg. Jmac's an ally while Meg is the enemy with vanessa in her sites. It's really dumb. And she may come to her senses but it's still dumb. As her even entertaining this idea will make jmac and steve trust her less. This should be an easy decision. Liz or julia go up and meg goes home. She's making it a huge disaster.

If Austwins go up and Steve/JMac vote out Meg over them it might be one of the biggest blunders on the show ever.

Jmac told Steve if Julia goes up he's voting out Megs. Does he remember it was the Austwins who were the ones responsible for him being evicted? What does he think will happen once he votes out Meg and the Austwins win HOH next week? It's so frustrating watching these bozos. It'll be 7 players left and they're leaving a showmance + twin alliance together LMAO.

Steve late night monologue time. Says he can't vote Julia out this week, his reasoning is that if he votes her out, Austin + Liz will make a four person alliance with James and Meg and take him out. He says he has to win HOH this week to take a stab at Austin + Liz.

Vanessa now talking about putting Steve up as the pawn. She only cares about not upsetting the austwins(she does realize steve will be upset right?) even though she rationally explained to austin why julia needs to be a pawn sometimes and he agreed. Vanessa if you put up julia meg will go home. If you put up steve it's not so sure no matter what austin's telling you. Austin sees steve as a big target compared to meg. And Austin knows meg's not targeting him(and less likely than steve to win an hoh and turn on austwins) so he may flip the vote. Then on top of that they know vanessa will be mad so the austwins would then be forced to assume vanessa an enemy and maybe target her. So dumb!

Yeah it's pretty crazy considering they used him as a pawn like 5 times got him evicted and he would STILL vote with them. Even crazier that it's against Meg the biggest floater non threatening entity in the house. Same thing applies to Steve. What I'm hoping for is once Julia goes up Steve/JMac see what's in front of them and go "what the **** are we thinking". I mean it's basically going from being at the bottom of a 6 person alliance with 7 people left to being 50/50 in an alliance of 4 with Vanessa not being able to play.

How do they not get that Meg and James will show them loyalty if they are the ones ultimately responsible for Meg staying. However it is up to James and Meg to make it happen once Julia is on the block.