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Old 08-29-2015, 10:10 PM   #5076
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Messed my post up I mean John should want Meg to stay.
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Old 08-29-2015, 10:13 PM   #5077
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Steve is such a terrible ally. Vanessa floated the idea of putting up Jmac up and Steve didn't even fight for him. Jmac leaving is so bad for Steve as that's his legit F2.
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Old 08-29-2015, 10:16 PM   #5078
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John 100% should want Meg to go.
Steve might be closer b/c he most likely won't be 1st option and his style comp is do.
If john and steve decide to flip the vote they should go to meg and james first and make an alliance. Promising if we vote out the austwin on the block over meg that we don't target each other til final 4 and go after austwins before vanessa as austwins gunning for john and steve. Otherwise they will vote out meg.
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Old 08-29-2015, 10:16 PM   #5079
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Same thing happened when Vanessa/Shelli up. He didn't really even try talk to Austin/twins about the vote.
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Old 08-29-2015, 10:18 PM   #5080
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Steve is such a terrible ally. Vanessa floated the idea of putting up Jmac up and Steve didn't even fight for him. Jmac leaving is so bad for Steve as that's his legit F2.
Steve prolly not fighting because he's worried if he does maybe vanessa puts him up and he goes home. He saw how everyone turned on him last time he fought for john. He's still not sure if vanessa closer to him or austwins. If he says put up an austwin he worries she might run to austwins with the info. But i agree he should push for an austwin to go up ideally.

Her talk with steve makes me worry she gonna wuss out and put up jmac. Making an excuse to put up jmac. This would be dumb. Than she evicts an ally and keeps another person targeting her in the house plus austwins now know vanessa won't trust them so they won't trust her.

John's not talking to you vanessa because you told him we should't talk so nobody knows we're working together. And he knows(thought) he was safe. Why would jmac put you up when he needs allies. While you know meg is going after you. And it's dumb to talk subversive to steve about jmac if you decide not to put him up. Jmac's on your side but he may jump if he hears you talking about turning on him. She's irritating me now. Steve too, they should be talking about an austwin. Don't be dumb and sell outs!

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Old 08-29-2015, 10:21 PM   #5081
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If john and steve decide to flip the vote they should go to meg and james first and make an alliance. Promising if we vote out the austwin on the block over meg that we don't target each other til final 4 and go after austwins before vanessa as austwins gunning for john and steve. Otherwise they will vote out meg.
That's what the whole house has been doing all season making deals EXCEPT Steve/Jmac. I don't know what their problem is, they are soooo scared to talk game. Do they even know they're in big brother. I really think it's because they're really awkward socially and would not be able to articulate their ideas very well.
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Old 08-29-2015, 10:22 PM   #5082
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Steve prolly not fighting because he's worried if he does maybe vanessa puts him up and he goes home. He saw how everyone turned on him last time he fought for john. He's still not sure if vanessa closer to him or austwins. If he says put up an austwin he worries she might run to austwins with the info. But i agree he should push for an austwin to go up ideally.

her talk with steve makes me worry she gonna wuss out and put up jmac. This would be dumb.
Good point.
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Old 08-29-2015, 10:24 PM   #5083
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Vanessa just might send Jmac home LOL.
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Old 08-29-2015, 10:25 PM   #5084
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Messed my post up I mean John should want Meg to stay.
But John told Julie Chen that Meg would be his target if he returned to the house.
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Old 08-29-2015, 10:26 PM   #5085
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But John told Julie Chen that Meg would be his target if he returned to the house.
Not basing on what he said but what I think he should do in my opinion.
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Old 08-29-2015, 10:33 PM   #5086
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She's putting up Julia. Damn I'm good. Can read Vanessa like an open book.
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Old 08-29-2015, 10:36 PM   #5087
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love this little dance they're doing.
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:02 PM   #5088
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Vanessa thinks she could get james to put up Meg next week if they keep Meg


Loooooooooooooool
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:03 PM   #5089
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What kinda drugs she on?
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:06 PM   #5090
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Vanessa thinks she could get james to put up Meg next week if they keep Meg


Loooooooooooooool
She's loses all good player status if jmac or steve go up. She's only playing for austwins to win if she does that. And for her not to win. Plus she keeps meg in the game whose targeting her and taking out an ally not targetng her whose also a shield because austwins will target jmac. Is she really this dumb? I know she's not dumb so i think she will come to her senses. She's just flirting with ideas. Plus it's good to make her look like she's not protecting jmac by making it look like she's considering it. Julia even said she'd be fine going up but rather jmac.
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:08 PM   #5091
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With full day still to go I think she will realize what needs to happen.
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:12 PM   #5092
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This renom basically determines if Vanessa is the Aaryn to Amanda/McCrae who did whatever they wanted, or the Andy who knew to turn on them when the moment was right
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:13 PM   #5093
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LOL

James: I'm going to make it public, I win HOH that ass is mine.
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:14 PM   #5094
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Such a terrible move with Meg on the block.
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James: I'm going to open up the HOH door right now and say Vanessa you're going up, and then close the door

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Old 08-29-2015, 11:15 PM   #5096
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The good news for Vanessa HOH will be questions and James never studies.
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:20 PM   #5097
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With full day still to go I think she will realize what needs to happen.
People also underestimate Meg winning if they keep her in the game. She's less likely to win comps but since nobody wants to target her for that reason she can stay deep. If she sits in a final 2 chair she beats alot of people out of pure having more friends/less enemies in jury. She wouldn't deserve to win but she may win.

If Austin knew vanessa just made a 3 man alliance with jmac he would be laughing his ass off at how dumb it is for vanessa to even consider taking jmac out. While saving an enemy in meg. She's gotta be f'ing with the whole house and she already knows julia or Liz are going up, probably julia. this is dumb to do though as she may lose jmac when he get wind of she's flirting with the idea of taking him out, which is dumb. I think vanessa overestimates how much the austwins care about her and underestimates how much jmac and steve need her.

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Old 08-29-2015, 11:21 PM   #5098
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What deal did Vanessa break with James beside Dark Moon alliance?

Its not hard to understand why Vanessa targets Meg/James but they don't understand it.
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:23 PM   #5099
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What deal did Vanessa break with James beside Dark Moon alliance?
When James was HOH, Vanessa promised him that if he doesn't put her up she won't put up James and a person of his choice if she won HOH. James ended up putting up Clay/Shelli. She knew she was in trouble that week and was scrambling making all kinds of deals.
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Old 08-29-2015, 11:26 PM   #5100
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When James was HOH, Vanessa promised him that if he doesn't put her up she won't put up James and a person of his choice if she won HOH. James ended up putting up Clay/Shelli. She knew she was in trouble that week and was scrambling making all kinds of deals.
Yes but hasn't that deal ended. For example when she campaigned against Shelli she told them her target is Becky. Which was true but after Becky left everything fair game.
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