ya this really sucks if james goes this week. hopefully he can win veto

they need to just go for the HR shot and try to get vanessa to put up the austwins. like she can't play in the next hoh, which they'll have a 50% chance of winning. and you should never want to be in a f6 with all 3 of them

its a huge longshot but if you're james/meg, i think thats the pitch you have to make

i don't even know what I'm saying since she'll never do that though





just still do not understand her endgame whatsoever

This is best possible outcome for vanessa as not only does she win HOH but a guy she's finally starting to get through to/work together comes back in whose targeting the austwins. Shelli maybe only better one but the way she talked in jury not 100 percent she woulda been vanessa's girl.

This also gives her a chance to rebuild her relationship with steve. As by not going after him like the house wants he will be on board with her. And she should tell the austwins she was close to falling but she made a deal with jmac because she knew he would target them. Well they say he didn't take the deal but i thought it was assumed by him he was safe. Who says he didn't take the deal? Maybe in his mind it is a deal?

I can see vanessa teaming with steve and jmac while still looking semi-working with austwins. If she puts up steve and jmac with no backdoor plans she's an idiot. Gotta go at james and meg so austwins choose her over james and meg as they would then be only one person. Plus she can work with steve and jmac. How can james and meg think they'd only be a replacement nominee? They might not get put up together but i don't know how they seem confident. You've played no game with her. I'd say 75/25 meg and james go up. And if one gets off you put up Liz to make sure they don't flip the votes. Austwins will press her on jmac but it would be a bad move as austwins are a shield for her with jmac and jmac a shield for her from austwins. If she listens to austwins she's dumb.

"the only thing that would be bad is if she switches targets and wants to go after austin and the twins"

---james


hard to root for him sometimes

Remember when endurance comps used to last 3 and 4 plus hours?

How did Jackie fall off so quick?? And I would have been ok with a Johnny Mac return until he said he would go after Meg. I mean wtf??

So Vanessa is denying that she made a deal with Jmac?

Seems that way as austin said jmac was dumb to not make the deal when talking to meg and james. Then austin talked to vanessa and she confirmed it was dumb of jmac to not take the deal? I bet jmac thinks it was a deal. Ok, now she talked to steve and she's talking like her, steve, and jmac should team up. Smarter move.

ok vanessa finally revealed her endgame plans i think


she wants to work with steve and john, and said together they can beat the austwins in any comp

so i guess she sees that as an acceptable f6, which i could see for her because no one would target her. shed be guaranteed to make f3-f4 at least, and chances are the austwins would suffer a casualty and shed try to make it liz so she can step in



RIP james and meg

I'm sure someone has invented a Vanessa drinking game by now, Drink every time she says "trustworthy, or straight shooter." Chug every time she cries

Austin wants JMac out and Vanessa agreed with him.

But then pulled Steve aside and said that's not in her best interest. I really think Steve and Johnny can grab her ear and have her make the move that's essentially mandatory and that's targetting Austwins.

LOL Raccoon face Vanessa complaining she's running outta eye make up.

She won't do that. She will sell they need backdoor John and veto won't be used.

Very unlikely she targets austwins as if she does she'll have 2 austwins targeting her plus prolly meg. Where if she targets james and meg only one person might target her. They may not even target her as the remainder of james and meg might team with steve, vanessa, jmac. Plus she'd lose austwins jury votes out of spite if she was the one to hit them first. She needs steve, jmac, or meg/james to break them up. She would later on if she had to but better for someone else to do it.

she's absolutely not doing that

id bet almost anything she puts up meg and james. thats what she wanted austin to do last week anyways

"everyone thinks I'm putting you up; they have no idea whats coming'

---vanessa to john

If she puts up James and Meg she's worse at this than I thought. **** this.

can't believe austwins will literally have a 50% shot to win the double eviction HOH

she's gonna make a f3 with steve and john. its not a bad idea. james and meg have no loyalty to her

tonight was an enormous equity swing for vanessa and steve, and a huge downswing for james and meg

seriously if the next two evictions are james and liz, vanessa wins the game. and I've been hugely anti-vanessa all season

I hope Meg wins.

this was the biggest hoh for vanessa to win. i think she has officially survived the hurdle. now the austwins will always be targeted before her, while they will never target her. absolutely perfect for her

I'm renouncing all my anti-vanessa sentiments and declaring her the favorite to win as of this moment

granted, i still hate her and am rooting against her, but she is in the best position right now imo. and she finally has some direction endgame-wise

Everyone congratulated Vanessa except Meg and James. Sounds like she's got her REASON!

I thought they did but she needs to spin something on why John can't go.