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Old 08-22-2015, 08:21 PM   #4476
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

I guess you completely forgot about Three's Company, Dark Moon Alliance, throwing Clay and Shelli under the bus when James got HOH, making sure everyone was on board with putting up Steve/Shelli in case of double eviction, etc. Not to mention the numerous final 2 deals she's made. Also she was practically Audrey's best friend until she saw the house was turning against her and then blew up on her.
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Old 08-22-2015, 08:31 PM   #4477
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Yes, they have left out a ton of her blowups where she goes into her indignant Miss Piggy voice and talks at 100 miles an hour about how she's the most loyal and trustworthy person ever. Meanwhile plotting to throw under the bus Audrey/Austin/Jason/Shelli/Steve/Clay or whoever she had an alliance with the previous week. Along with the constant "do I have your word" and gameplaying all the time with no ability just to interact as a real person.
I don't watch the feeds, so I'm curious as to how she was disloyal to Shelli and Clay until it came down to the point that it was her or them. And is she supposed to stay loyal to them when the alternative target is herself?

Also, LOL loyalty in Big Brother.
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Old 08-22-2015, 08:36 PM   #4478
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I don't watch the feeds, so I'm curious as to how she was disloyal to Shelli and Clay until it came down to the point that it was her or them. And is she supposed to stay loyal to them when the alternative target is herself?

Also, LOL loyalty in Big Brother.
I don't have a problem with it as a game move. It's just her self-righteousness that grates on people, always talking as if she's the most loyal and trustworthy person ever and whatever you do, "don't lie to me because I can't stand liars!"
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Old 08-22-2015, 08:44 PM   #4479
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I guess you completely forgot about Three's Company, Dark Moon Alliance, throwing Clay and Shelli under the bus when James got HOH, making sure everyone was on board with putting up Steve/Shelli in case of double eviction, etc. Not to mention the numerous final 2 deals she's made. Also she was practically Audrey's best friend until she saw the house was turning against her and then blew up on her.
She didn't throw Clay or Shelli under the bus. She told everyone they were involved as was the whole house besides ADC which they all agreed they would do. Clay and Shelli fd themselves by saying we are drawing a line in the sand but trying to play both sides. She had a final 2 with Austin, but she knows Austin has the twins so obviously at best she is 3rd. Same with Clelli. She made sure everyone was ok with putting up Shelli or Steve with Johnny Mac because they had the votes to keep Shelli or Steve. Becky just happened to win so JMac couldn't go up. The whole point of her making the deal was to save Shelli but it didn't work.
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Old 08-22-2015, 08:51 PM   #4480
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I guess you completely forgot about Three's Company, Dark Moon Alliance, throwing Clay and Shelli under the bus when James got HOH, making sure everyone was on board with putting up Steve/Shelli in case of double eviction, etc. Not to mention the numerous final 2 deals she's made. Also she was practically Audrey's best friend until she saw the house was turning against her and then blew up on her.
I got nothing against you but you have a real warped version of what's going on in the house when it comes to vanessa. You post good stuff bout other things going on but think you have bias against her effecting your judgement imo. NONE of that is vanessa's fault, especially that she's the only person getting blame.....

James put up clelli and they were dead in the water. She didn't throw them under the bus. Vanessa broke her ass to save shelli while the other side of the house wanted shelli gone and austwins didn't care because they don't want to ruffle feathers. You realize austwins were in an alliance with shelli and clay and they turned their backs on them 100 percent but no mention of them being sell outs? And Austin just said yesterday it wasn't vanessa's idea to do the 8 man to protect each other for DE and hit shelli and the floaters. He said when james won hoh james said we need to do something to protect us like the 8 man. Vanessa heard this and said ok i'll be on board but i have to know everyone else is on board so let's have a meeting, NOT her plan. And she and Austin said after the meeting they weren't planning on honoring the deal. Just did it to protect themselves in case other side won hoh.

The audrey one makes me think you're purposely making up lies about vanessa. The house was against audrey the whole game and Vanessa totally rebuilt audrey's rep and was helping her more than anyone. Then offered Audrey a final 2 deal(which i think was a dumb gameplay on vanessa's part as you can't trust audrey can keep a secret). Audrey then betrayed vanessa throwing vanessa under the bus by telling clelli about the final 2 deal. So vanessa blew up on her because she was betrayed by audrey and to protect her game.

She made final 2 deals with Austin, Steve, and Audrey. And a final 3 with Clelli. I don't see these as betrayals. These are her leaving options open for later on in the game that some of her final 2 deal people are still around so they have a deal in place already. It's not like she betrayed or was working against any of the people in those final 2 deals. They were all working together. And do you think Austin was gonna hold up his end when he fell in love with Liz? Or steve may have went with John. Audrey coulda went with anyone.

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Old 08-22-2015, 08:51 PM   #4481
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She didn't throw Clay or Shelli under the bus. She told everyone they were involved as was the whole house besides ADC which they all agreed they would do. Clay and Shelli fd themselves by saying we are drawing a line in the sand but trying to play both sides. She had a final 2 with Austin, but she knows Austin has the twins so obviously at best she is 3rd. Same with Clelli. She made sure everyone was ok with putting up Shelli or Steve with Johnny Mac because they had the votes to keep Shelli or Steve. Becky just happened to win so JMac couldn't go up. The whole point of her making the deal was to save Shelli but it didn't work.
I'm talking about when James was HOH after winning the wall endurance. She went up to the room at first opportunity and told him she doesn't like to name people and throw them under the bus, then proceeded to throw Clay/Shelli under the bus and make it clear to him that she was talking about them. Before that conversation, he had decided he was going to put up Liz and Vanessa. After it, he decided to flip and go back on his wall deal. That conversation was actually one of her more brilliant ones.
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:04 PM   #4482
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James winning HOH was pretty clear one of her alliance members was going to leave. I forget the week in general but Clay leaving is good for Vanessa and if I remember correct Steve was an option but was never gonna happen.
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:09 PM   #4483
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Austin just told Liz he will ask Steve, John, Meg, James who they want out if they all name Vanessa they need keep her.
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:16 PM   #4484
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Listen up delusional fanboys, TimTimSalabim is correct. There's a REASON () why Vanessa is the most hated person in the house right now and that is because the people in the house can see through her BS and hate to be manipulated. She tells the house 10x a day that she's a straight shooter, doesn't tell lies and the most loyal person in the world. They know she's full of **** and don't want to be manipulated by her. For example she'll go up to James the HOH and tell him that there's a power couple in the house that's running the whole game, but she doesn't want to say their names because she is not someone who throws other people under the bus LMAO. She talks to people like they're 5 yrs old who are incapable of coming up with a strategy that's best for their game. So Vanessa would tell them what's best because she has their best interest LOL.

If you can picture how Derrick was talking to the audience in the diary room on the live shows, "oh I'm so sorry America, I did everything I could to save Donny but I couldn't do it". It's so disingenuous and very condescending like he's talking to you as you're stupid, like you have no idea what is actually happening trying to manipulate you. It's actually insulting. This is basically how Vanessa has been this entire season to the people in the house.

I'm actually surprise people have had as much patience with Vanessa as they have. If I was ever in the house there would be no way I could put up with her garbage. I would've put her up a long time ago or got myself evicted by now because I can't stand to listen to another second of her nonsense.

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Old 08-22-2015, 09:50 PM   #4485
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

Also Derrick and Vanessa would both have way more fans if they could just own their **** in the DR.
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:04 PM   #4486
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Re: Big Brother 17 -- Premieres Wednesday June 24th on CBS @ 8pm

BB gossip podcast is starting
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Old 08-22-2015, 10:51 PM   #4487
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Vanessa's clown theory was super funny to me.
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Old 08-22-2015, 11:15 PM   #4488
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Even the BBGossip hosts are fed up with Vanessa's BS after listening to 3 min clips of her spewing garbage LOL. Imagine living in a house with her 24/7
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Old 08-22-2015, 11:18 PM   #4489
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no there not they love her in the house.
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:18 AM   #4490
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Vanessa's clown theory was super funny to me.
That one and the "trust the gay person" picture are classics. Vanessa is a special kind of crazy.
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:54 AM   #4491
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Also Derrick and Vanessa would both have way more fans if they could just own their **** in the DR.
what? derrick owned everything in the DR
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Old 08-23-2015, 12:55 AM   #4492
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and its also different with derrick because america actually affected his game
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Old 08-23-2015, 01:40 AM   #4493
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That BBGossip show was 99% Vanessa machinations that ended with them all hoping she gets booted. What would their show be? They admitted they just mute the twins like everyone else and their whole show revolved around her. Every clip was her talking, or them talking about her.
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Old 08-23-2015, 01:52 AM   #4494
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Not that I care since I have the feeds but you would think they'd time it better for Big Brother After Dark watchers.
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Old 08-23-2015, 02:12 AM   #4495
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I don't have a problem with it as a game move. It's just her self-righteousness that grates on people, always talking as if she's the most loyal and trustworthy person ever and whatever you do, "don't lie to me because I can't stand liars!"
She did stab that Dark Moon alliance in the back, but to be fair, it was like her third string alliance, AND I think she intended to actually put Austin up when she said she was going to because she thought he was lying to her and betraying Julia behind their backs. I can't stress enough how much of a bad idea I think it was to move on Austin without having a real heart to heart with he and Liz first. Which I guess she actually did eventually. He never did go up that week even though it was what his new brass tax buddies wanted to happen.
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Old 08-23-2015, 02:24 AM   #4496
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Vanessa won POV

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Feeds back. Vanessa won POV, Meg crying in shower.
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Old 08-23-2015, 02:33 AM   #4498
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Vanessa throwing shade at Steve. Very likely Steve could leave this week.
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Old 08-23-2015, 02:35 AM   #4499
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HAHAH Steve and John fate in Vanessa hand.
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Old 08-23-2015, 02:41 AM   #4500
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