Tonight's episode is making me passionately hate Vanessa and Austwins. I am particularly so over Vanessa and want the most brutal eviction possible for her.

Tonight's episode has actually made me hate Steve even more. Didn't think that was at all possible. WTF is he doing in this show???????OMG!!!!

Haven't been watching feeds, is John still the target or has it switched to Becky?

Cause the dude is big brother "smooth".

Julia was bitchin to Liz the other day that Steve is so disgusting that he doesn't flush the toilet after taking a dump. This guy has serious serious issues. Yes, this smooth operator is planning on making a move on Julia when they're both in jury house because he thinks she likes him.
If it comes out later that he has some sort of disorder like autism or something, I'll take back all the bad things I've said about him itt.

Hah bb gossip show has been saying all season they thought Steve was "on the spectrum."

The target switched to Becky after the noms. The Austwins brought Jmac up to the HOH room and talked to him at length about Vanessa and other things, and they decided they could trust him and use him to get information from the other side of the house. Becky they see as too emotional and single-focused against Vanessa to be helpful. Also they knew that Vanessa would want Becky out and they don't want to raise any suspicions with her yet.

Vanessa having a meltdown on the hammock. She thinks she is getting back doored and is accusing Steve of ignoring her lol

I don't think talking down to Steve and throwing accusations at him is going to help her.

This makes sense, thanks.

Really enjoying bb gossip actually way more than rhap. Thanks to whomever suggested it.

Vanessa is so goddamn annoying

everyone should be listening to BBgossip. best BB podcast and if you don't have time for feeds, then they do a tremendous job of breaking down the personalities and the critical moments and how it all ties together. they're better than rhap in terms of understanding the social game.

Her feelings are correct, as she is on the outs with the house. But i agree it's not gonna help her cause to yell at steve and be emotional. She needs to think about how to get out of this situation. To talk to steve about how do we give ouselves the best chance to go far. As they can't go far with the Austwins intact. As that's 3, and we know nobody's gonna target meg, so you have to make a move to give yourself a chance. Steve knows it but he's afraid to work with vanessa because she's out of control often. I think he still will if she comes to him sanely and says "what do we have to do steve?"

I love how when the house decides who they want to leave all the lies and garbage they dump on that person. I mean the house has made vanessa out to be Audrey and she is not close. She has never worked both sides of the house and made up ridiculous lies etc... When you make someone feel like they're Audrey of course that person is gonna feel alienated and not act all cool and awesome. This is all a propaganda campaign by the austwins, becky, jmac(he's only really believes it because he's a lost puppy) to make the house(and probably the television audience/live feeders) think she's this crazy, lying, chameleon player that deserves the betrayal the austwins will do to her. When really the Austwins know she's on their side and are just deciding to go a different direction. They want themselves to look better by pretending vanessa's something they know she's not.

DarkCheck...we get it that you are in love with Vanessa Rousso. Your terrible posting can stop at any point though.

Vanessa's biggest issue in this game is, like, delusional narcissism. She's offended that John blew her off, because who wouldn't want to work with HER?! It's, like, such an honor. She can break deals any time she wants because, like, she's a GOOD PERSON and she knows it. She wants to help them, you guys!

Puke.

Honestly, her game play this season reminds me of that horrible terrible bubble hand against Tehan where he spaz shoved 42 on the bubble and she tanked for forever before calling with QQ (having already committed half her stack). She just clicks buttons with no thought at all and stumbles into a dominating position.

Of course, Tehan got there, so...

I pretty much agree with all of this. The issue i have is the painting of her as a disloyal betrayer of the austwins. And audrey-like playing both sides of the house and making up ridiculous lies to make people go against each other. The austwins are the disloyal betrayers turning their backs on her. She hasn't played both sides of the house, she was just in a huge alliance in 6th sense+steve where the other side of the house sees that as working 2 different opposing groups(floating team to team) when in reality they were all together. Austwins won't tell them that because they like vanessa being seen as "the chameleon." And she lies the least in the house considering how much game talk she does. John barely ever talks and he's lied more than her.

I listened to that BB gossip podcast (very good btw) and one of them speculated that Vanessa is on some kind of amphetamine drug which is why she starts crying out of nowhere. It also might explain the talking at 100 miles an hour.

I suspect that most of it is just good old fashioned self-absorption and lack of self-awareness though.

I'm quite certain she has said things about Adderall and her meds on camera

Big Brother Updates ‏@BB_Updates 2m2 minutes ago

Vanessa told Austin that she asked if they can make a deal where the winner will stake the loser x dollars of winnings for gambling #BB17


What. The. ****.

Yeah she's on meds in the house. She's just go no access to whatever illegal drugs she uses on the reg at home. She's a ****ing psychopath.

Big Brother Updates ‏@BB_Updates 4m4 minutes ago

Vanessa told Austin that if they are allowed to make the gambling money deal, they could then split the profits from the gambling #BB17

Big Brother Updates ‏@BB_Updates 4m4 minutes ago

Vanessa said that if it's allowed and Austin is the one doing the gambling, she could coach him #BB17

Big Brother Updates ‏@BB_Updates 3m3 minutes ago

Vanessa to Austin- We could do a little spin off thing on it (the gambling). I think it would make cool TV #BB17


Absolutely NO ONE would watch this. SHUT THE **** UP.

I'd be shocked if they're allowed to make side deals like that.

Vanessa said it's a way around making money deals as it would be a backing situation. Early in season james, jeff, i think john said whoever wins would get the other 2 trucks. They were just talking but they all said sounds good. It's not a terrible idea to bring to Austin because she knows he's a gambler and nobody else is offering him anything. He would love the idea of going to vegas and gambling with vanessa with extra money picked up because of a deal. Doubtful it works but she should try anything at this point. It also makes Austin feel safe with her that she won't come after him. He can still change his mind on getting her out.

Austin/Liz/Julia have been claiming all week they will vote Vanessa out next week but if Vanessa sitting next to Steve/John/Becky/Meg/James the closer it gets the more I think they'd keep Vanessa.