Jeff is just as bad as Audrey

If John really does throw this expect some fireworks.

Austin is pretty much screwed. He will be gone before everyone realizes Jeff is playing every side and lying. Clay and Shelli want to get Day out and align with Steve then get Austin out and align with Vanessa. It's all too ridiculous. And Clay and Jeff keep telling John to throw it and keep giving him reasons about why it's good for their own games and not John's, he has to realize they have their own things going on without them.

Wouldn't count Austin out yet. Clay and Jeff don't really scare me. Just depends who gets HOH ect.

I think I prefer having noms the same night as HOH competition in this BoTB format. It gives less time to the two HoHes to come up with a plan/alliance. I feel like if they had another day to sort it out some sort of alliance between Shelli, Clay, Becky, Jackie, Jeff and John would have formed.

I have a hard time seeing how the house will ever put together enough votes to vote out Clay, Shelli, Jeff, or Meg. James and Jackie will stick with them, and Jason, Day, Becky, and John don't seem to realize they're on the bottom of that group, and don't get along with the outsiders who do.

Just reading the updates it appears that Johnny did throw the BOB and now he and Day are on the block with Shelli as HOH. The plan is that whoever wins POV is going to save Johnny and Shelli will be forced to put up Audrey and they can backdoor her.

The target switched to Audrey?

Shelli wanted Day out.

i havent been watching feeds at all, but is there any potential in this cast for anyone to come out a goat or close to goat status?

I think it's just Shelli and Clay that want Day out. The rest of the house wants Audrey out afaik.

But it's Clay and Shelli's hoh. If Johnny Mack gets pulled down they should put up Jason. As if Jason and Day are around next week Shelly and Clay would be their targets. Even though they can't trust Audrey not to flip at some point in the game right now she votes with them/ally. Where Jason and Day are the enemy. The house can't vote Audrey out unless they put her up. Why did the plan change for Clay and Shelli?

Day's the target still if she's still on the block after veto.

Jason won the BOB so he can't be a replacement nom.

Funny things i got from watching feeds yesterday...

Becky and Steve talking: Becky being the more socially awkward person in the convo. Steve was relaxed and trying to talk to her but she was so hyped up nervous she was talking really fast. So Steve had to wave his hands down to essentially say "take it down a notch biatch". I think she was nervous because she knew everyone she talked game with yesterday knows alot more about the game than her.

Shelli to johnny Mac: "We're really good at this game" circling her fingers to point at her, Clay, and jeff. Like she is talking to a naive child. Johnny played along but must be thinking to himself "what a moron she is. Can she really be this dumb?"

Shelli to Clay in hoh room alone talking about Steve: "he's walking back and forth trying to learn this game. I can't imagine coming into this game not understanding the game". Shelli you're not the goat player you think you are sweetheart. Your game is basically to do what your Master(clay) tells you to do. And Clay ain't no rocket scientist either. While Steve knows everything about this game.

Johnny Mack to Shelli, clay, and Jeff: how bad do i have to throw the BOB? Should i just sit down? C'mon bro i know you're not this stupid.

I love how everyone in the house thinks just because Steve and John act a little different/nerdy that their dumb. Granted John does act dumb but he must be playing Kevin Spacy role "keyser soze" from unusual suspects. John mentioned to someone that Day made that comment about Steve that he is keyser soze. John said he thinks what you get from steve is who he is. Does that mean that what we get from you john isn't who you are?

p.s. Thing i found annoying yesterday. Becky essentially ignoring Steve when he said "do you remember when we shook hands earlier in the week that if you agree not to put me up i won't put you up". Her response was to say i don't think it's right jackie should go on the block 2 weeks in a row. You betrayed Steve and broke your word Becky. Why because you like Jackie personally better. Not a good reason. I can't wait til Steve is in same position. I hope he puts her up and reminds her of the broken promise.

I'm not even sure the way the alliances go in the house anymore, but I do know that no one trusts Audrey. They know she's the one that voted against Jackie.

The feeds after the veto meeting could be the best to date.

Ok thanks. I didn't realize that. I thought once you win BOB it becomes one hoh where it was like you were never nominated. That they were fair game. So not jason, but Audrey would be bad for them. They should put up someone where there is no chance the house might flip the vote.

It's truly astonishing how great Shelli Clay and Jeff think they are playing.

Austin told Audrey that she's not allowed to talk game for a full week LMAOOOOOO

I wonder if Austin's going to figure out the twin thing given that he hangs out with Liz/Julia practically 24/7.

Not if he stares at her ass most of the time like I would

POV time

Ha, good point .

I'm waiting for some kind of slip-up like maybe BB will say "Liz put on your mic" and Julia will briefly fail to realize they're talking to her.

I was thinking they have to have some kind of plan if something like that happens or if someone brings up a conversation or something that happened the day before and they weren't clued in.

What time?