Not a good start to save Vanessa plan. Austin was supposed to go up to hoh to fight to keep noms the same/save vanessa. He went up there didn't mention it as far as i know. I didn't listen to whole convo but sounded like just shooting the breeze from the little i watched. In fairness he may have felt it wasn't the right time. I forget who was in the room but maybe someone not privy to "the deal". But it's telling that Austin's only concern at the moment is what Liz thinks about his beard.

Meanwhile Shelli kissiing ass all over the house(brought james his shake to him in the backyard. Now playing cupid for Liz and Austin. What a phony she is.) to get on everyone's good side. While Vanessa doing the opposite getting annoyed at Steve for not doing the dishes and for putting his deodorant in her hoodie.

i dont think shelli is being phony, more like she's just in a good mood because Vanessa isn't up in her **** like always trying to stir things up. She's trying to let of some steam

She went out to the backyard to bring James his shake. She hates his guts and she came out all smiles to take care of her buddy james. Doesn't get more phony than that. More like she's in a good mood because she needs to be to get on everyone's good side. And also she's happy the target is on vanessa instead of her.

Maybe but more importantly where is Becky and vanessa

I do what I can

After hearing Austin talk to Liz on the hammock i'm thinking you're right. He's such a pos washing his hands with Vanessa basically, not even gonna try the way it sounds. He was like "vanessa thinks she helped us to get this far. But really she almost had me killed and you(liz) saved me." Vanessa was hoh jackass and by not putting you up it was gonna piss off the house. She saved your ass. Liz didn't seem to care about Vanessa either, only caring about saving her own ass. Such sellouts. I could see if it would cost them their game to save her but it wouldn't. All they have to do is make it known to the house we care about Vanessa so let's stick to the plan to vote out shelli. If they don't they will f themselves anyway as shelli will turn on them and work with becky and john. Vanessa had a good convo with james that i hope makes him realize to fight for her with ADC. That she still gives her word not to put him up and one other person of his choice if/when she win another hoh. Also that she would always have his back with her people.

Becky either just lied right to Vanessa's face saying "you're not going up you're totally fine. jmac is going up." Either that or she decided to take out shelli to avoid blood. I think she's lying and vanessa is gonna go friggin berserk on her(because not only it's a backdoor but very cold-blooded to tell her she's fine when you now know she is going up. She's making it more personal and not just a game move.) and blow up Becky's game as a result. Becky thinks Vanessa has no dirt on her but she does have some. Becky also doesn't realize how close she is with Austwins. Sadly she may never know because Austwins might sell out. It's actually very dumb of Becky to do this plan without checking with Austwins if it's ok first. Austwins better fight for her.

At this point I don't think anyone will care what Vanessa says after she gets put up. They're looking at her like they did with Audrey, they just want her out because she makes everyone uncomfortable.

she's done. she's so out of the loop now, that steve and shelli haven't even warned her that she's getting backdoored. everyone is lying to her at this point. it's impressive that becky has gotten the best of vanessa in all of their interactions, which started 2 weeks ago when she placated vanessa into not evicting her and convincing vanessa that becky was an asset.

It's funny how they all think Vanessa is in the dark, when Vanessa hasn't said more than two words to anyone all night

Is Vanessa going to pull an Audrey?

I think Austins bulemic 1:27:58 am cam 4

I think she will now that Becky lied right to her face when she didn't need to. If she's going up what's the point of lying to her now unless you're doing to make it hurt more when she get's blind-sided. She hasn't done anything to Becky to deserve that. So i think Vanessa will throw her under the bus. She'll go off on Austin if he doesn't fight hard. After the smoke clears she will not talk to anyone except maybe Steve, Shelli, and maybe the twins. If Becky handled it respectfully i think vanessa may have gone out classy realizing it was just a game move.

What did Jason do to deserve the blindside they gave him? It's just part of the game. As they said in that Clint Eastwood movie, deserve's got nothin' to do with it.

It's funny how the only reason Vanessa's in trouble this week is because she's hidden her alliances so well and claimed to be a solo dolo. She's in a dominating alliance but the other side of the house thinks she's all alone making an easy target with little blood if they take her out. None of them in a million years woulda went after her going into DE if they knew how connected she was. They woulda stuck to the plan on shelli. And it's so sick now all her alliance are just gonna turn thier back on her like they don't know her when she never f'd any of them over. All they would have to do is go to ADC and say Vanessa is our girl let's not break our peace and go along with original plan on taking out shelli. But their cowards. Vanessa woulda rallied the troops if the situation was reversed on Austwins.

I agree to a point. You're right, Jason got blind-sided and didn't deserve it. But Vanessa didn't go out of her way beforehand to tell him she loves him so much and you're 100 percent safe, don't be paranoid. Then make fun of him behind his back. In fact she talked good about him behind his back. Becky going out of her way to give her the condescending "oh vanessa, you're so paranoid, you're 100 percent fine. John's going up so relax. We're good. We all love you!" then talk so much garbage behind her back when Vanessa has done nothing personal to her is low and mean-spirited. She's making it very personal knowing Vanessa's done and adding insult to injury for no reason telling her she's all good and paranoid when no need to. If Becky just said i got a decision to make or flat out telling her you're going up it woulda been fine. What Becky's doing is punking her for no other reason than they're two people that wouldn't hang out together/different people in real life. She's being a mean girl.

I hope vanessa can get Austwins to flip ADC and decide to target Becky and jmac the next 2 weeks. I know very doubtful because Austwins are acting like cowards, but very doable if Austwins want to have Vanessa's back.

It's a lot easier for austwins and shelli to jump ship than to try to explain Vanessa's behavior with any sort of rationality.

Vanessa blew up her own game by trying to make DE and other deals when she had no power, and by being overly emotional. Don't blame austwins and shelli if Vanessa leaves, they're doing what's best for their game.

Maybe Becky is going a bit overboard with her approach, but Vanessa really has no one to blame but herself for the backlash she's getting. Her constant probing and insisting people give their word on every little thing, along with her emotional outbursts, has made everyone extremely uncomfortable around her. When you're cooped in a house with other people 24/7 you've got to give them some breathing space.

I blame them for turning their back on her when she's gone out of her way to protect them this whole game. They would never be in this 3 headed monster position if not for vanessa's leadership and balls to attack the big targets that were gunning for Austwins. Now all they have to do is say we care if Vanessa leaves and ADC would just vote out shelli to not ruffle feathers. ADC wants shelli out anyway so it wouldn't be a big deal.

Also Austwins are dumb if they think Shelli will fill the same role Vanessa had with them so who cares which leaves. Shelli's one million times more likely to betray them. If they don't fight for Vanessa i see Austwins losing power in the house and much more likely to get dismantled than the other side. Vanessa is the glue keeping 6S and freaks and geeks together.

Exactly!

Becky's veto speech is gonna be a little harsh - lots of shots fired at vanessa

It doesn't aggravate you guys how douchey and fake the ADC+Becky crew is? Their the "mean girls" from high school picking on the outsiders. Talking so much garbage behind people's backs and then pretending to like you to your face. I find them to be despicable people. I enjoy it in the sense at least it's not boring but i want them to go down hard! The problem is if Austwins sell out vanessa i will dislike everyone in the house except Steve.

Did Becky forget the jury votes + someone coming back?

They're scorned women as James would say. To be fair, talking **** behind people's backs and being nice to them happens all the time in this game and real life. And don't forget that ADC had no problem with Vanessa and even wanted to work with her until the Jason thing.

Who is the ADC alliance? AfterDarkCrew? There is only James and Meg left of that alliance?

Anything exciting happen today?