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4thstreetpete · 08-06-2015, 11:31 PM

Sick, she got all 3 balls.

pindawg · 08-06-2015, 11:32 PM

Only way she gets out Vanessa is if she puts up a combo of Austin/Liz or Julia and backdoors Vanessa.

I cant picture another way where she would get the votes to get out Vanessa

And yea, if the veto doesnt get used it hurts her game a little, but not the end of the world to break up that 3some

wontoo · 08-06-2015, 11:32 PM

becky should choose james, meg and jackie this week and bring in jmac. aim for vanessa and shelli, since they're the biggest 2HOH threats and vanessa is a threat to her game. use steve as bait. no need to disturb austwins yet.

4thstreetpete · 08-06-2015, 11:32 PM

Another fun week. This season is great.

R_Webb18 · 08-06-2015, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 4thstreetpete

She's not putting up Shelli

How would you know?

Becky is gonna stick to the plan.

Becky was openly campaigning against Shelli.

Umcle Diddler · 08-06-2015, 11:33 PM

Should be some good drama this week. Pretty sure Vanessa is already bitching how she is in the toughest spot in the house this week.

wontoo · 08-06-2015, 11:37 PM

vanessa says she's in the toughest spots every week (might be true for once). and she's extremely loyal. and she's not a sucker so she watches out for her game. and she's been betrayed. and she's all alone. and she's was forced to do what the house wants.

4thstreetpete · 08-06-2015, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by R_Webb18

How would you know?

Becky is gonna stick to the plan.

Becky was openly campaigning against Shelli.

Think about it. She wants Shelli out for her long game, but she still has a working relationship with her as a facade (in case Shelli's side ever wins HOH). Shelli is someone she talks to and can work with. Someone like Vanessa, she has no relationship with. No point in pissing off Shelli right now if she's not your target this week.

TimTimSalabim · 08-06-2015, 11:39 PM

oh yeah feeds gonna be good

TimTimSalabim · 08-06-2015, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wontoo

vanessa says she's in the toughest spots every week (might be true for once). and she's extremely loyal. and she's not a sucker so she watches out for her game. and she's been betrayed. and she's all alone. and she's was forced to do what the house wants.

and they all lied to her... lied right to her ****ing face!

R_Webb18 · 08-06-2015, 11:41 PM

We'll see but they now know double eviction will happen Thursday (since they predicted it be this week) + jury member is coming back.

R_Webb18 · 08-06-2015, 11:43 PM

They can def get Vanessa out if she doesn't win POV b/c Becky will be tie breaker.

Umcle Diddler · 08-06-2015, 11:49 PM

popcorn literally made and lookin forward 2 a fun night of Vanessa squirming

DarkCheck · 08-06-2015, 11:50 PM

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It's an interesting spot and I think she could put herself in a great position if she plays this week right. The goal should be to get Vanessa out and do it in such a way that Austwins + Shelli and ADC target each other leaving Jmac and Becky in the middle.

Put Steve and Vanessa on the block with Steve being a pawn. Make an alliance with Austwins because they won't be able risk using the veto if they win it and tell them that if Jackie, Meg or James win next HoH they will persuade them to target Shelli or Steve. That way she only has to sweat Vanessa winning Veto and the long shot of Shelli being picked, winning and taking Vanessa off.

Yeah, that could work. I think Vanessa is in bad shape this week unless Becky puts up the wrong people or Vanessa wins veto. If she does John's plan of putting up Meg and Liz planning on backdooring Vanessa Meg would go home if team Vanessa wins veto as the would keep noms the same and vote out Meg.

JB91 · 08-06-2015, 11:54 PM

She would be a complete idiot to put up any of John, Jackie, Meg or James. Those 4 votes are all she needs because she is able to break any tie. I don't see any of those four not being fine with voting Vanessa out.

4thstreetpete · 08-06-2015, 11:57 PM

She should never listen to any strategy advice from Jmac, no one should. If Liz and Meg are on the block, Liz would get 2 guaranteed votes and only need 3 more to stay (Vanessa, Shelli, Steve). Way too risky.

AussieJack · 08-06-2015, 11:58 PM

isnt it usually 5 people who compete in the comeback comp from jury?

wontoo · 08-07-2015, 12:00 AM

put up steve and shelli. backdoor vanessa, simple and clean

4thstreetpete · 08-07-2015, 12:02 AM

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isnt it usually 5 people who compete in the comeback comp from jury?

Could be just 3 or 4. I really wish Julie wouldn't tell the house that someone is coming back from jury. Makes the remaining houseguest play more tepid and diplomatic.

4thstreetpete · 08-07-2015, 12:03 AM

putting up Austin and the twins wouldn't be too bad. They suck in comps so no need to worry about backlash.

DarkCheck · 08-07-2015, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JB91

She would be a complete idiot to put up any of John, Jackie, Meg or James. Those 4 votes are all she needs because she is able to break any tie. I don't see any of those four not being fine with voting Vanessa out.

So sick how the worm has turned. Going from very close to being a team vanessa domination of this game to now gonna be dead even after this week with most likely the head of the snake(best player vanessa) leaving for their side. I'm gonna throw up if the final 4 are Meg, Becky, Jackie, John. Any of those winning this season would be so tilting. All floaters(float to power/HOH in meg, Becky, Jackie case) in an exciting season of grenades being thrown at each other to this point.

Umcle Diddler · 08-07-2015, 12:08 AM

I think best plan would be to put up Vanessa & Austin and if the POV is used to throw up Shelli in their place.

4thstreetpete · 08-07-2015, 12:08 AM

I got it. Best route for Becky to take is putting up the twins with the intention of backdooring Vanessa or Shelli. If either Shelli or Vanessa win POV, put the other up. Whoever sits next to a twin is guaranteed to go as they will get 2 guaranteed votes so Becky's side can easily send the backdoor target out.

Damn I'm good.

4thstreetpete · 08-07-2015, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Umcle Diddler

I think best plan would be to put up Vanessa & Austin and if the POV is used to throw up Shelli in their place.

Shelli could win POV and take Vanessa off. That would be bad for Becky.

JB91 · 08-07-2015, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkCheck

So sick how the worm has turned. Going from very close to being a team vanessa domination of this game to now gonna be dead even after this week with most likely the head of the snake(best player vanessa) leaving for their side. I'm gonna throw up if the final 4 are Meg, Becky, Jackie, John. Any of those winning this season would be so tilting. All floaters in an exciting season of grenades being thrown at each other to this point.

I'm only going to be tilted if Meg wins. The season is 97 days long. Staying quiet and waiting for good opportunities is better than destroying your social capital and the integrity of your word before the halfway mark. If Vanessa had kept her word and sent Austin out they would have been fine.

Despite that there is still enough room to manoeuvre that she should be able get out of this tricky spot.