Yes Shelli, tell everyone you have 3 jury votes! That will make people want to keep you.

So Clelli go up to talk to James knowing that James is going to put them up. When James says he is thinking about putting Steve up they try to talk him out of it. Yes he is almost definitely bsing but like come on don't say no to potential nominees that aren't you.

Vanessa and Liz are what the noms are as of now. Twins might be the only 2 that Vanessa goes home over.

Shelli/Clay are the noms right now.

James just said he might put up Clay/Shelli together. "Why use pawns?"

The plan is to vote Shelli out but I think she can get the votes to stay over Clay.

They already did this when they decided to make Vanessa go back on her word to the other side of the house and not evict Austin. Vanessa explained to them that it would be drawing a line in the sand, and they decided they had to have Austin. Then, compounded the problem by lying to everyone's faces that they didn't know what was going on when they clearly did.

I don't know if they could have continued hiding in plain site if they hadn't evicted Jason, but the remorseless lying about that situation was about the worst way to handle it.

Does Steve come off as as much of a creeper on the live feeds as he does on the edited show? Dude seems legit strange.

i am a little worried that the 6th sense will choose to vote out clay over shell. they'd have the votes if they do it together

ugh idk why they are filling becky in on this plan

If POV is used putting up Liz would be best bet to get Clay or Shelli out if that's what they want.

I'd say Vanessa would

This week should be interesting. When you're not in power is the true test of how good at this game you are. This week will reveal a lot about how good Clelli, Vanessa & company are at this game. I haven't watched anything yet but I'm expecting an awesome week. If the target gets diverted to Becky or Steve that is an epic fail from James and an enormous victory for sixth sense.

Vanessa would probably work but my thinking was

Liz/Julia might wanna keep another pair in
John has deal with Clay/Shelli
either Clay or Shelli off block so one of them will be voting and that gives you 4 votes right there only needing 1.

Liz vs Shelli or Clay
At least Meg, Jackie, Becky, Steve, Austin, Julia would keep Liz

RHAP talking about the absent big brother takeover AGAIN. Who cares, Rob? It was a stupid idea. We talked about what a stupid idea it was. The stupid idea was stupid and went the way of stupid ideas, yet we still talk about it every week. Maybe it was all a big troll to see how long we'd continue to talk about such a stupid idea. In that sense, it was a resounding success.

Gronk party? That's lame. Now let's spend 5 minutes coming up with half a dozen of our own lame ideas to chuckle and snort about. Now let's do that after every episode for rest of the season even after the brain trust at CBS finally realizes lame bull**** is not entertaining.

/rant

Yeah. It looked like it was gonna be ok for Vanessa after her talk with James. But if they put up Liz and Vanessa(which was the last plan i heard last night. Someone said Clay and Shelli? I didn't hear that one. Did that happen?) Vanessa would go home before Liz. Unless one of them come off to backdoor Shelli. Which is pretty sick considering Vanessa has more close ties than anyone in the house. It's just that because Julia and Austin would have to choose Liz because it's her sister and his love. Would be such a bad beat for Vanessa as that's the only person she would go home against pretty much.

I don't understand why their focus is on Vanessa now? She looks alone and more trustworthy than Shelli and Clay. I especially think it's dumb for James to go against his word to Vanessa. As she gave him a great deal if he just didn't put her up or backdoor her. Why would he not want to have that deal in place? If he told Meg that she might be like oh ok let's not go after her than. Also if Vanessa gets saved instead of James having great deal with Vanessa and possibly semi-working with her, he would then be her main target/most likely to go home next week!

Around 7 am James told Meg that Shelli/Clay going up. James and Meg then told Jackie. Then told Becky soon after.

Ok. Thanks! Much better news for Vanessa. As either Shelli or Clay would go home almost for sure. If one got off they would probably put up Vanessa. But i think she'd stay as other side wants one of clelli out and freaks and geeks would also want one of them out as opposed to Vanessa.

James is right he wouldn't win against Shelli or Clay in final. I don't think anyone would win against Vanessa in a final.

Where the f is Johnny Mack lol? This guy is never around. His game strategy is to sleep, eat cereal, floss, and run away if anyone tries to talk game.

Watching feeds from last night. Really loving James so far.

Vanessa talking to James like he's a 2 yr old. Says her word is good and won't break it. Didn't she break her word twice both times when she was HOH and also the Dark Moon alliance? f her man.

Can't take it no more. Had to put Vanessa cam on mute, listening to RHAP right now.

He made a deal with Shelli/Clay not to put them up or backdoor them this week, so either way he has to go back on his word. I actually prefer him trying to take out Vanessa because she has no one who will try and get revenge for her. Or at least not that James knows of. And if he puts her up with Liz there's a really good chance of no fallout because it'll be Julia and Austin helping to vote Vanessa out.

He gave his word to both Clelli and Vanessa but he can easily go back on his word with Clelli more than Vanessa without looking like scum. His reasoning would be you(clelli) gave me your word last week we were in an 8 man alliance and you betrayed it. So why should i feel the need to honor my word to you? Plus you put me on the spot while we were in a comp and you were about to fall off. Where Vanessa hasn't directly betrayed James so he has less of a reason to betray his word to her.

In actuality his fallout would be worse by taking Vanessa out as she has more pull(more people) in the house. But i agree from his eyes it would look like slightly more fallout going for Clelli. But he did get an ok from Vanessa she's ok with whatever he has to do as long as it isn't her. So really he only sees 1 person(Clay or Shelli)) being mad if one of them leaves. Also he might think going after Vanessa might make Austin and twins mad as he knows Vanessa closer with them than they are with Clelli.

If you go after Shelli/Clay though you're going to have made a mortal enemy out of whichever one survives and they're sure to do everything in their power to go after you. If you take out Vanessa her allies are likely just going to see it as a smart game move and it won't be taken personally.

ian terry should do his own BB podcast

They were gonna go after him anyway so what's the big deal if one wants him out for the move? And if his plan works right it will be Shelli leaving where it would be perfect for him. As Clay can be worked with as he will realize it's a game move and look to advance himself. He might even join them. Where Shelli will be more like "you took my man i'm taking you out!" And if he went after Vanessa and missed he'd have a mortal enemy too but with more backup other than a jilted lover.

I actually like what James is doing this week, impressed. It was very smart to join forces with Austin and twins and ballsy to target Clelli instead of making a wasted wimpy move on Steve. James stock has risen in the game dramatically if plan stays the same. Before this week he was dead man walking where most of the house had him on the radar in the near future to now on nobody's radar except the remainder of clelli, 1 person.