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oh, and she also has to dodge a bitter jury which may not be so easy. meg said before she left that she doesn't hold any grudges against anyone besides vanessa. id assume james would feel the same way and would vote with meg

steve would prob get shelli's vote, and the austwins would get each others vote. john would get becky's vote. so vanessa doesn't really have automatic votes for her - in addition to having to deal with potential bitterness

I think she would be able to win votes by putting her resume on the table and laying out how she had a hand in every single eviction. She has to count on gameplay overcoming butthurt. No guarantees but it's her path to victory.

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09-04-2015 , 12:26 PM

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also vanessa is unlikely to be good at the final 3 HOH because both parts 1 and 2 are usually more physical than mental

Part 1 is usually endurance/physical, while part 2 is mental. IIRC part 2 usually has some minor physical component to it (like stacking or moving something into place, but not what would be considered a physical challenge).

Also, she can't be that big of a dog in a physical comp with anyone but maybe Austin.

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09-04-2015 , 12:28 PM

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She should be a massive favorite in part 3 of HOH if she gets there. I don't think anyone beats her in "what did the evicted houseguest say." Speaking of which, if I were on the jury I am answering every question for that the opposite of what I actually would say.

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09-04-2015 , 12:29 PM

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also vanessa is unlikely to be good at the final 3 HOH because both parts 1 and 2 are usually more physical than mental

She just beat everyone in a physical comp. Sure it only lasted 15 mins but she still won. Part 2 is a mix of both mental/physical. I like Vanessa chances but anyone could do well.

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09-04-2015 , 02:56 PM

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I'm counting on production making this veto comp one that Julia can't win. If she does win then interest in this season is going to drop to an all-time low.

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09-04-2015 , 02:59 PM

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I'm counting on production making this veto comp one that Julia can't win. If she does win then interest in this season is going to drop to an all-time low.

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Twins are so dumb for thinking they'd be safe.

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09-04-2015 , 03:03 PM

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The twins haven't understood for weeks why they'd be targeted. They are wastes of space still hoping to further their modeling careers or whatever it is they hope to do when summer camp is over.

Don't care who the hell goes home as long as it isn't John.

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09-04-2015 , 03:06 PM

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Rob C strangely off the Jmac and Steve bandwagon now that they are finally in a decent position. Seems odd timing.

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09-04-2015 , 03:20 PM

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I can't wait for someone to take John to F2 because they all think he sucks and they get romped near unanimously.

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09-04-2015 , 04:28 PM

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James just said to Jeff he wants to see Vanessa in the final 2 so there's that.

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09-04-2015 , 05:21 PM

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I can only think that the only reason Liz and Julia aren't beneath Austin on Jokers poll is because they are splitting votes. These two girls are the definition of entitled little bitches.

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09-04-2015 , 06:17 PM

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If Austin leaves Vanessa has to gun for Steve/JMac next week correct?

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09-04-2015 , 06:36 PM

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She prob just puts up the twins

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09-04-2015 , 06:39 PM

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It's unlikely Austin goes. Most likely scenario is Liz goes this week. But who knows, these dufus's might be oblivious

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09-04-2015 , 08:20 PM

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If noms stay the same couldn't Vanessa just vote Austin out? If John or twins win HOH they both won't put her up.

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09-04-2015 , 08:25 PM

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I dunno what she's planning but it'll be tough for her to keep playing everyone. I think she'll vote Liz out and make it 3 v 1 v 1. Austin will do anything for her vote, and Julia will be gunning for Steve

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09-04-2015 , 08:44 PM

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Dumb question since I'm a casual viewer (just watch the shows and read this thread) and have only seen 4-5 seasons.

Why do they still even have the have-not thing? They don't show the competition anymore and not even any of the consequences other than some conversations in the have-not room.

Seems like the audience doesn't care for it, might as well do away with it all together.

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09-04-2015 , 08:58 PM

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Vanessa overthinking stuff she thought she could get Julia to throw POV.

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09-04-2015 , 09:21 PM

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there is no have-not competition, the HOH just names them

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09-04-2015 , 09:22 PM

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If noms stay the same couldn't Vanessa just vote Austin out? If John or twins win HOH they both won't put her up.

Ya but they also won't take her to the final two. She'd at least have some hope of convincing Austin or Julia to take her to the end, an option she wouldn't have with both twins in

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09-04-2015 , 09:25 PM

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I'm counting on production making this veto comp one that Julia can't win. If she does win then interest in this season is going to drop to an all-time low.

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This

Twins are so dumb for thinking they'd be safe.

Eh it would make for a ton of drama when steve has to send Vanessa or john home

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09-04-2015 , 09:26 PM

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She's been wrong on like every theory she'd had about evicted houseguests. Plus that comp is very random. No way she's anything more than 55% to win it, if that.

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09-04-2015 , 09:27 PM

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No, usually the only mental part about the part 2 HOH is knowing the order of evictions. Which everyone knows. Then it's physical to place their names wherever they're supposed to go

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09-04-2015 , 09:30 PM

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Well ya of course, but they don't give them a ton of time to answer f2 questions and a lot of people may have their minds already made up. And jurors aren't the most rational, objective people