LOL I'm listening to the Steve and Forest Gump talk from last night right now. Gump tells Steve if you get houseguest's choice, you have to pick me. Steve: Ok, you're going to take me off? Gump: No, I'm going to take Shelli off. I need you to be Ok with this.

Then why the f would Steve want to choose Gump for houseguest's choice??? These 2 are unbelievable.

Because she can do both. Would be pretty easy to have Austin and the Twins and the ADC go after each other for the next few evictions.

His problem with choosing Vanessa for pov is it would piss off jmac and becky. And make people wonder if he's working with Vanessa. He's in a tough spot of what to do. You're underestimating Steve's game. He understands this game very well, and while it may come out awkward at times, when he's talking to people about what's best for their game and how to talk game with people he knows what he's talking about. I'm referring to trying not to get blood on hands, throwing hoh's/pov's at right time, explaining to people that it's important to not tell other people when someone gives you good info otherwise the info would never come again and possibly make you a target etc.. I think you're right about John though. Some of it is just because he's so in the dark in this game because he was scared to talk to anyone early on. But everything that comes out of his mouth is dumb. Steve asked him why you want to go after Vanessa, what did she do to you? "uhmmm nothing." Steve "did she lie to you?" John "no, everything she tells you is the truth." Steve "i'm confused." John "it's because she's smart and playing a good game! She keeps getting hoh and taking big people out and not getting any blood on her hands!" Finally he got to one reason that made some sense "that she got a group together where they agreed to not go after each other next week and target shelli, and have Steve/jmac in the plans for the next 2 weeks."

Steve is tempted to tell jmac about freaks and geeks and sos. I'm not sure if this would be good or bad for Vanessa. I mean in one sense he's giving away her secrets, but in another sense it may make John realize vanessa's not alone and Becky will get alot of blood on her hands if they try and backdoor Vanessa. Which could be good for Vanessa as it may make them back off. Austwins are supposed to fight for Vanessa after pov to protect her. They may, but i worry they may do it half-assed. Meaning instead of directly saying if you backdoor an Austwin or Vanessa we will be pissed and the deal is off and you don't want to make yourself our target. But they might just say so it doesn't come off threatening "so the plan is on to put up jmac right? Good, we're good." and leave. Then Vanessa goes up and it's too late. Then they could still fight for her to vote the other person out. But even then i wonder how hard they will fight as Austwins act like they don't want to create problems so no targets come their way. They need to fight hard for their girl! If they do she can be saved. If they don't want to get involved and back off vanessa would go home.

Sounds like Vanessa, Austin and Meg were picked to play veto

This could be a super interesting day for feeds. Picking players for the POV is today and it could get interesting if Steve or Shelli gets house guest's choice.

Vanessa told Steve she's getting backdoored and tells Steve to choose her for veto. She swore on her life that she will take Steve off the block. She also told Shelli the same thing that she'll take Shelli off. Steve and Shelli has compared notes and know what Vanessa has said. Things could blow up today when players are drawn.

For maximum entertainment the producers need to put 4 house guest's choice buttons in the bag.

Already? damn.

Wow, I think Shelli picked Vanessa for POV turning her back on Jmac, Becky and Steve. Lines drawn.

Apparently Shelli got HG choice and picked Vanessa

Seems like a suicidal move to me, because surely she'll get voted out now if they can't backdoor Vanessa.

This is awesome news for Vanessa. As she gets to play, but also even if she doesn't win Becky won't trust shelli now, and will probably decide to take shelli out whether the noms change or not. Shelli winning the pov would be bad for vanessa though, because then they would still look to target Vanessa because shelli comes off the block.

Austin better try to win to save vanessa by keeping noms the same.

Vanessa and Shelli figured out how to pick houseguests choice a while ago. They can feel the letters on the chips.

This is also great for Steve, because I don't see a scenario now where he gets voted out.

Only way is if Vanessa wins and takes off Shelli, Becky puts up JMac and Shelli votes with ADC to evict Steve. That is probably not going to happen though because Becky won't put JMac up with Steve. Apparently JMac said if Vanessa won and took Steve off he would tell Becky to put him up to not get blood on her hands for putting up Austwins or something like that according to jokers.

Not likely he would have been voted out anyway because he's alliged with Austwins and the other side thinks he leans more with their side. But there is a small chance he goes home. If shelli wins pov and vanessa gets put up. Austwins might fight hard for vanessa and say you need to save vanessa or all deals are off for next week.

Or if Shelli wins pov and Becky gets scared to put up vanessa. So puts up an austwin as a pawn figuring no blood would come of taking out steve as she thinks he's alone. Not likely scenario though.

I think Shelli and Clay chose the wrong side. Vanessa is not loyal (despite what she claims) and neither are the Austwins. Going into the final stretch of the game with them is bad news. She and Clay should've chosen the other side of the house +Jmac, Steve. They're way more loyal and trustworthy.

Vanessa has never done anything against Clelli.

She isn't loyal. She's telling Shelli that she swears on her life that she'll use the veto on her. She also swore to Steve the same thing. Vanessa doesn't have any loyalty to anyone.

Shelli's better off with James' group because people like James don't do things like that.

No way they would put Jmac up imo. They need his vote in order to control the outcome. I think Becky would put up one of the Austwins in that worst-case scenario and just use the excuse that they're a 3-headed monster.

Who would vanessa really pull down? She said if steve picks her she swore on her mother to take him down. But shelli picked her so she's not breaking her swear because steve didn't pick her. She would piss off the other side more pulling shelli down as that breaks last weeks deal. If she pulls steve down shelli goes home. Or does she keep noms the same which would make Austwins content as no chance they go up and other side happy because shelli is still there..

You do realize they said we are drawing a line in the sand and all getting blood equally then didn't do that, lied about knowing, and did nothing but throw her under the bus and say they were going to blow up her game to her face?

I don't know what she would do. I haven't been watching much this week.

He's not perfect.

If I'm Shelli I pick Vanessa. She will def use it on someone.

Scared Vanessa would play veto and she does anyway. I hope Vanessa wins takes Shelli down just to laugh at Becky.

Vanessa winning would really mess up the plan since it would keep her + Shelli safe. Austin winning wouldn't save Vanessa too since he wouldn't use it