See above for what caused the blowup. But essentially John admitted to Clay his target was Vanessa when Clay was trying to explain to him Shelli and Vanessa have your back. Clay told Vanessa that James put it into John's head that she was gunning for John and that's why John wants to target Vanessa. So Vanessa ran around the house confronting everyone causing a big stir.

I'm really worried for Vanessa now as she has may have created more enemies and may make John allign with james crew with becky. Team Vanessa better win hoh or it might be over for Vanessa. If it's DE even worse if they don't win as she won't have time for damage control. And they think the hoh will be endurance which doesn't favor Vanessa. Only favors Becky, jackie, twins, John. And twins might be scared to win hoh as don't want blood. So she's looking like an underdog to be safe. This will really suck if she goes home tonight.

Also, John is a moron.

It's not DE. Apparently it is some kind of endurance tweeted by big brother that we get to watch it on live feeds. John is not really wrong though. Vanessa in the meeting planned to put up remaining Clelli and John and get John out.

Nothing wrong with rooting for Vanessa, she's grade A entertainment. I'm actually rooting for James to win and I'd like Vanessa to stay in the game as long as possible. Ideally I'd like Vanessa to be up on the block every single week but have her win POV every time for maximum entertainment.

I could understand why John thinks he's her target but was she really going after him or just telling people that?

This

Her group needs to win HOH or she needs POV.

Him, Steve & Becky are the only perceived floaters in the house so I'm sure his name would've been mentioned in the discussions this week to vote out a floater next week.

I don't remember that being Vanessa's plan. I think i remember Austin saying that. You sure she said that? Not saying it's not possible but that would be team Vanessa's one plan(spitballing early in the week again that doesn't mean it's the plan) to make the least blood. Really she wants James or jackie. I heard her say this week she would break her deal to keep james safe because he's not keeping his deals.

If he's referring to the Dark moon 2 allaince for this week yeah. But that isn't her plan. It was the house plan to target clelli remainder then floaters. Neither side plans on honoring though. Vanessa was considering an alliance with john this week. She asked Austin if they should bring him in. Austin said he's like Steve but we can trust Steve 100 percent more.

It was the plan of the group and since Vanessa started the group I believe Becky told John it was her plan. I also think Vanessa is going to tell John Becky was on board but Becky apparently already told John she said she was on board but really isn't. All of the Becky John talks are what I've read off jokers so it's possible they aren't true. I refuse to watch Becky on feeds.

Haven't seen much of the feeds this week (Damn u real life!) but my understanding from this thread is that both sides were just kinda yessing each other and that it didn't really mean anything.. so I thought James & co would've approached Jmac saying y r u crying over people so ready 2 throw u UTB?

Becky's got a lot of clues. This is a conversation between her and John last night and she nails pretty much everything.



Meg on the other hand is the actual worst because she thinks she knows what's going on but is literally always wrong.

I don't think Meg thinks she knows what's going on

She always thinks she knows what is going on then after votes realizes she doesn't. Rinse and repeat.

eh, people are like upset when her game gets blown up. when that's the tits for me

Thu 3:21 PM BBT Van to Clay & JMac: You are either related or gay lovers! It is the only thing that makes sense.

Only the dummies. Vanessa's game blown up is the best thing ever.

she's just a very level 1 player. I don't think she's arrogant or anything

Yeah, the meeting was kinda bs just hoping each other honor it for one week so neither side would get targeted. But neither side plans on honoring it.

I don't think james said anything to jmac about that. Many houseguests were just saying to each other why is he crying they didn't give a crap about him.

Becky is planting as many negative seeds about Vanessa as she can because she wants her out bad. For instance this bs alliance becky is telling john that vanessa is targeting him because she assembled the meeting. The meeting wasn't to target john but just not go after each other. It was a group decision(including Becky) to go after the one left from clelli next week then floaters.

Meg and the twins are the most clueless housemates left. Which means one of them will probably make top 3

If Vanessa wins HOH she's calling out Becky if not she still will.

I don't think the twins are that clueless about what's going on. I do think they are clueless strategically though but I think they realize that for some reason no one is targeting them and they don't want to piss anyone off.

The twins might be the best floaters in the game right now.

She better win but i think john is the favorite tonight. He looks pissed and very determined to win tonight and take out Vanessa this week. He told Steve "if it's down to us just throw it because i don't mind getting blood on my hands this week, i want vanessa out." I remember Becky saying one time he's a long distance runner. They think the comp is endurance.

Clay (lied to cover Jmac) and told Vanessa it was James that told Jmac that Jmac was V's target.

I'd laugh if hinky vote comes up.