Yea, that's true, if he stayed in the room like he was supposed to and and several guys came busting in, he would shoot and they would have to kill him or be killed.

About a month ago I got my sister who saw Breaking Bad but never saw BCS to binge the entire series and she just finished last night. So today she was using Youtube TV to watch the new episodes, and starting texting me all these questions while watching. lol

Then only 1 hour from when she started, she said something about the twins and Nacho's tires. And I said that is weird, in the very beginning did you see the gold toilet? She said No. Somehow she started watching episode 2 first. lol

had to watch it twice to figure this out. forgot that you gotta turn your brain on to watch Gilligan shows.

Fun watch but Nacho escaping Part is kinda meh... The Assasins could have brought him an escape vehicle or he could have taken one of the assassins cars to gtfo. In the real world the assasins would have prolly killed nacho first after he let them in to tie all lose ends

The first two episodes kinda sucked.

Hating all the cartel stuff. Liking the lawyer stuff. Much like all earlier seasons. I just haven't really cared about Nacho at any point. Gus/Mike is kinda like whatever, we know the characters, there is nothing new in the scenes, they do Gus/Mike things. The only season I enjoyed the cartel business was the 4th season with the Germans. Kim <3

yeah i was gonna say that, but obv it doesn't make for good tv

similar to the kettleman lady figuring out jimmy's game, just set up for kim to bust out the stick, ok fine whatever

also thought it was really dumb and over-dramatic for tyrus to put a gun in mike's face, and beg to pull the trigger
cmon, man
(ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ****ING KNOW THAT NONE OF THESE PPL DIE YET WTAF LOL)

opposite for me
rooting for nacho to get out of this somehow is about all i got rn

couldn't care less about jimmy & kimmy ****ing with howard for no reason


lol, yep

it's not bad, it just is what it is

More LALO or we riot, imo.

Episodes were snail pace, but the show has always been a slow burn for the big payoff.

The cartel/nacho stuff is more immediately interesting, although I think it requires a bit more suspension of disbelief that he keeps escaping by the skin of his teeth.

Lawyer stuff is boring at the moment, but the ultimate question of what happens to Kim and how Jimmy seems to magically erase his past from the minds of the entire ABQ legal community + make his big $ score is the end game climax so hopefully that’s worth it at the end.

Re: the Nacho plan not being the usual well though out Gus plan we are used to - clearly he’s gone against Mike’s wishes with this; maybe what we are used to is actually more of Mike’s plans than Gus’s, and this sequence is the beginning of Gus relying more on Mike.

1. Can someone remind me why Jimmy & Kim hate Howard and want to get him. I forgot. I meant to re-watch, but never did.

2. I can understand how Mike was involved in the plan to get Nacho killed. Like everyone said, it's completely out of character for Gus. Once Gus tells him the plan, then anyone (but especially Mike) has to tell Nacho that they will try to take Nacho alive and get the truth out of him. And Gus will immediately understand it's a bad plan (which, he should have anyway, but whatever).

If they planned to get Nacho without telling Mike the plan, that would have been more plausible.

3. If I hadn't read this thread, I never would have figured that Lalo killed the couple and used the dude's body. That seems to make sense, but still seems a bit weird. Are we sure that the talk about getting him to the dentist was for making sure his teeth matched Lalo's? If that is true, what it would mean is that Lalo for (?) years had planned to keep this guy around and with matching dental records in the event he needed to fake his death. Lalo is smart, but that seems a bit much.

It's possible I'm misinterpreting this whole thing because I didn't even catch it as I watched.

1. projecting chuck's death on howard (unwarranted), howard treating kim like crap (possibly), jimmy not getting a bigger share of the Sandpiper lawsuit (possibly). Personally I've never liked this storyline at all. it really seems forced.

2. I'm still not exactly sure what the endgame is for this storyline regarding gus & mike is so hard to comment right now.

3. lalo is quite ruthless underneath the charm, isn't he? I think they (the writers) have shown this plan to be within the range of something he would do.

Was Nacho really essential to the assassination plot? It doesn't appear that Lalo lived in a secret location or fortified compound.

Although there were Walls and armed Guards Nacho probably was not essential. A good old ladder could replace him^^

Fair, I don't really understand the vendetta against Howard either. He always seemed like a fairly likeable person who mainly might have treated Jimmy unfavorably because of Chuck.

not sure why but thought ms. kettleman was really hot this time around. don't even remember her on her first appearance.
+1 to whoever said they enjoy the cartel stuff and don't care about the lawyer stuff. at this point it just seems saul pulling pranks on guile is filling spots for the real plot. show should be called better call mike at this point.

I did enjoy that kim scene though.

Me either. It seems as if he's never been anything but decent to Kim (remember, he offered to waive the money she owed the firm). The mention of projecting Chuck's death above is the only thing I've been able to figure out.

I think it was revealed that Chuck vetoed Jimmy becoming a partner in HHM, but that was mentioned by Howard (Maybe I'm remembering wrong?). Maybe they figure he was lying and really was the blocker?

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Not much to say yet I want to rewatch but Jimmy and Kim seem really awkward together now

[QUOTE=KansasCT;57640314]not sure why but thought ms. kettleman was really hot this time around. don't even remember her on her first appearance.
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Looks like she had a boob job since the first season lol.

yeah jimmy's anger towards howard is about entirely about displacing his own responsibility for chuck's death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeCVl8vTawY

should be epic when he finally confronts his guilt over it all head on

kim i can't remember
think it was howard told her about all the stunts jimmy was pulling on him
she seems drawn to flawed ppl (and drama), and fiercely defends them, probably going back to her parents
she's gone ham on everyone who's talked **** about jimmy through the series, has to be 4-5 times now at least

and the flashback with her mom (and also through the series) basically told us that she's stubborn, self-reliant, etc


i was also gonna say before the season that i wouldn't mind more flashbacks of kim and nacho, and also more chuck
hopefully we get something

Jimmy knows that he pushed Chuck over the edge with the insurance hustle. Howard of course doesn't. Did Jimmy explain that move to Kim?

The Chuck-guilt is the reason for the specifics of the plan, but the goal is to push the Sandpiper settlement.

In short, Jimmy gets a piece of the lawyers' fee when Sandpiper [if you don't remember - nursing center that was bilking its residents] eventually loses the case. I forget exactly how much, but it's likely to be significant (a few million for Jimmy).

Jimmy and Kim said last year that Sandpiper had an offer on the table, but that Howard and Cliff Main were pushing for something bigger. While Howard and Cliff can wait for that to happen, Jimmy and Kim would rather take the offer now -- not sure how long they want to live off of the cartel money in the duffel bag. And, as Kim said, Saul needs an office and the right car, which requires the money.

The concept, as I understand it, is that if they can create a rift between Cliff and Howard, that will create an opening to get the case settled sooner. Not sure that logically follows, but that's the thinking. Why it has to involve ruining Howard goes back to the Chuck issues.

BB Saul does not have a million dollars. Maybe he uses it to bail out Kim? or she screws him out of it.

Didn't he take 5% of Walt's meth business? Walt ended up with $80 mil. I guess this season we'll see what happens in the background prior to him bailing to Nebraska or if he did spend it all on Kim, solid gold toilets and whatnot

thanks, i couldn't remember that part of it

it tracks that cliff would be way more eager to settle, given that in s2 he said sandpiper was small potatoes for his firm. and probably the opposite for howard/hhm, having fallen on hard times since chuck left, probably want to push for max value