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08-09-2018 , 08:02 AM
[QUOTE=riverboatking;54140888]man im so torn, part of me wants to just wait till the season is over so i can binge it as waiting a week between eps is so brutal, but on the other hand i don't see how i can possibly wait that long.

i understand why it cant work on television but i just wish amc was like prime or netflix n dropped entire seasons at once.[/QUOTE]

SyFy has sort of done just that with the last 2 seasons of 12 Monkeys.
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08-09-2018 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Philly03
At the end of season 3 Chuck and Jimmy had a falling out, Jimmy went to apologise to Chuck for everything that happened between them, Chuck told Jimmy he never even mattered to him. Jimmy looked up to Chuck and always wanted his approval. This crushed him. So much so that he went and ruined his reputation to fix the damage he caused to the old lady at Sandpiper.

When Jimmy found Chuck's house burned down with all they electronics in the backyard Jimmy correctly assumed he had relapsed. I think a part of him thought maybe Chuck really did love him and that their falling out may have caused his relapse. He realizes maybe he is at fault and he hates that he did that to his brother.

Now once he hears Howards story he realizes once and for all he really did not matter to Chuck. A weight is lifted off of him.
This is a good explanation.
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08-09-2018 , 11:34 AM
The Cinnabon stuff is not a dream sequence. That would be beyond hacky.

The reason it's in black and white is because the light in his life is gone. He loved being a crooked lawyer and now he's living in fear while working in a ****ing Cinnabon.

If you rewatch the first Gene scene, you see him watch one of his old Saul commercials. It's playing in colour.
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08-09-2018 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by corpus vile
Why? Cuz you think the show is awesome? Ergo anyone else not as totally blown away by it as you is "really dumb"? How does that work then?
The problem is not that you dislike the slow pace or think it is boring. That’s a perfectly legit complaint that drove lots of BB fans away from BCS.

The problem is that you made it to season 4 and still complain about it in here. That’s like posting in a GoT thread that you just watched S04E01 and like the show except for the sex and violence and that you are going to quit if that doesn’t change over the first half of the season. Don’t you think people would rightfully ridicule you that?

I am very sure after season 1, AMC approached Gilligan/Gould about lots of BB fans quitting on BCS because of the slower pace and got a response along the lines of “we’re doing it our way or we don’t do it at all”.

That’s the way they want the show to be and you as a viewer had 3 seasons and one episode to quit if you don’t like it.
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08-09-2018 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
man im so torn, part of me wants to just wait till the season is over so i can binge it as waiting a week between eps is so brutal, but on the other hand i don't see how i can possibly wait that long.

i understand why it cant work on television but i just wish amc was like prime or netflix n dropped entire seasons at once.
I’m with you on this. I’ve been staring at my dvr for four days now. I am spoiled with Netflix. I can’t dtand waiting a week between episodes. But it sucks also knowing it is sitting there waiting to be watched.
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08-10-2018 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Philly03
Now once he hears Howards story he realizes once and for all he really did not matter to Chuck. A weight is lifted off of him.
(Hearty applause and loud whistling.)

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Originally Posted by bortlicense
The reason it's in black and white is because the light in his life is gone. He loved being a crooked lawyer and now he's living in fear while working in a ****ing Cinnabon.

If you rewatch the first Gene scene, you see him watch one of his old Saul commercials. It's playing in colour.
(Standing ovation, flowers tossed onstage.)
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08-10-2018 , 02:23 AM
Someone just told me that in an interview, Odenkirk said the Gene scenes take place pre-WW death. FWIW.


Can someone remind me exactly how/why Mike got set up with Madrigal? I know he had to launder some money. Where exactly did he get that money? Just doing some random jobs for Gus?
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08-10-2018 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
man im so torn, part of me wants to just wait till the season is over so i can binge it as waiting a week between eps is so brutal, but on the other hand i don't see how i can possibly wait that long.

i understand why it cant work on television but i just wish amc was like prime or netflix n dropped entire seasons at once.[/QUOTE]

SyFy has sort of done just that with the last 2 seasons of 12 Monkeys.
i don't want to derail the thread but is 12 monkeys good?
the film was one of my all time favs n im a huge time travel dork but i heard it was meh.
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08-10-2018 , 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking

i don't want to derail the thread but is 12 monkeys good?
the film was one of my all time favs n im a huge time travel dork but i heard it was meh.
Good but not great. Closer to very good than to meh, IMO.

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08-10-2018 , 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp11
Can someone remind me exactly how/why Mike got set up with Madrigal? I know he had to launder some money. Where exactly did he get that money? Just doing some random jobs for Gus?
Gus sends him over there to meet with Lydia so they can pay him as a ‘security consultant’.

He doesn’t have to launder money, but getting a paycheck is vastly superior to getting cash. It’s a no-show job like the construction jobs on the Sopranos (where they have to show occasionally anyway) but apparently Mike is not comfortable doing nothing for that big of a paycheck so he goes over there to do the job they pay him for.
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08-10-2018 , 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Gus sends him over there to meet with Lydia so they can pay him as a ‘security consultant’.

He doesn’t have to launder money, but getting a paycheck is vastly superior to getting cash. It’s a no-show job like the construction jobs on the Sopranos (where they have to show occasionally anyway) but apparently Mike is not comfortable doing nothing for that big of a paycheck so he goes over there to do the job they pay him for.
Not to mention that this one appearance sets up the believable story that it's an actual job in the event there's an investigation.
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08-10-2018 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp11
Someone just told me that in an interview, Odenkirk said the Gene scenes take place pre-WW death. FWIW.
That makes no sense, unless I am forgetting the timeline of the ending of BB. When WW was out in the shed by himself, was that after the meeting with the guy who was going to get him and Saul new identities? If it was after, then it makes sense.
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08-10-2018 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Holy **** "Well I guess that's you're cross to bear" got an audible "Daaaaaamn Jimmy" from me.

Cold as ice, holy ****.
Especially since by this point Jimmy knows that most of the crap Hamlin directed at Jimmy over the past few years was directly orchestrated by Chuck. In many ways, Hamlin and Jimmy were similarly manipulated by Chuck.
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08-10-2018 , 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Not a chance. Just watched it two days ago. He goes in knowing there is no way the woman will give him a refund and when she refuses he decides to stick it to Chuck for getting him suspended and being out X thousands of dollars in insurance.
I don't buy this. Jimmy was desperate for cash that day. It's difficult to believe he wasted a chunk of his limited time on something he would've thought was an impossibility.
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08-10-2018 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp11
Someone just told me that in an interview, Odenkirk said the Gene scenes take place pre-WW death. FWIW.


Can someone remind me exactly how/why Mike got set up with Madrigal? I know he had to launder some money. Where exactly did he get that money? Just doing some random jobs for Gus?
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Originally Posted by that_pope
That makes no sense, unless I am forgetting the timeline of the ending of BB. When WW was out in the shed by himself, was that after the meeting with the guy who was going to get him and Saul new identities? If it was after, then it makes sense.
Not sure what that_pope means by "out in the shed". If that means the little cabin in New Hampshire, then yes, it's after the new identities. Remember, the vacuum repair guy brought him up to NH and was visiting every now and again. "Welcome to New Hampshire, Mr. Lambert"

But what TheChamp heard still confuses me. Not sure how Saul (by now Gene) would've known that Walter was/wasn't alive. He's trying to start a new life and keep his head down, wouldn't be checking out Albuquerque, I wouldn't guess.
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08-10-2018 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp11
Someone just told me that in an interview, Odenkirk said the Gene scenes take place pre-WW death. FWIW.
That's not totally true, he basically asked "what if?" and Gilligan/Gould answered that it was a possibility.

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Originally Posted by https://ew.com/tv/2018/08/09/better-call-saul-creators-gene-walt-alive

“Bob brings up an interesting question,” says Gilligan. “Speaking of which: Do we even know in our Omaha sequences, our Gene sequences… I mean, has it happened yet?” (“It,” of course, refers to Walt’s death.)

“We haven’t defined that,” responded Gould. “We haven’t said how long Gene has been in Omaha.”

“It’s a good question,” added Gilligan. “Like you said, we don’t know yet. It’s a good question. Has it happened yet, has it not? As you say, Peter, we have not defined it.”

“It’s an open question,” Gould replied. “It’s one that will have to be answered at some point — like a lot of these things.”
Based on the timeline from BB with his birthday bacon, we know that there's something close to a year (?) between the time Walt goes into hiding and him returning to take care of business.

Seems possible that Gene's scenes happen in that year, if the creators want it to be that way.
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08-10-2018 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
The problem is not that you dislike the slow pace or think it is boring. That’s a perfectly legit complaint that drove lots of BB fans away from BCS.

The problem is that you made it to season 4 and still complain about it in here.
Lol that's not a complaint I've hardly even posted itt & what you're really saying is that you're essentially whinging at me for...having patience? I only made it due to binge watching & wouldn't have stuck at it weekly same as BB actually. I didn't think BB picked up until mid way to season 3, yet felt from there to the finale was actually genuinely amazing tv. I'm hoping BCS is the same in time.

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That’s the way they want the show to be
Yeah I get that. And them wanting the show the way they want it to be...magically makes it absolutely immune to criticism...how again?


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and you as a viewer had 3 seasons and one episode to quit if you don’t like it.
True dat. Or I could....continue too watch it just for the hell of it & continue to comment on it any way I effin well please & cheerfully disregard any argumentum ad hominem insults that comes my way from people who take umbrage at this & go on a whinge at me over it, due to said whinging being of absolutely no interest to me & utterly irrelevant to discussion re the actual show, that might just work too, whaddya reckon Mads?

And then you could use the ignore function rather than get yer knickers in a twist over someone daring to have an ever so slightly dissenting opinion about your special little show & everyone's happy. That way you don't have to read my stupid posts. See how that works?

Or you can continue to insist if I don't like BCS then I kin giiiit out & I can continue laughing at you, whilst simultaneously dismissing your irrelevant point, it's all good.

Last edited by corpus vile; 08-10-2018 at 04:14 PM.
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08-11-2018 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
He doesn’t have to launder money
I think it was to launder money.
Remember them talking about an amount and how long it would take to pay that out.
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08-11-2018 , 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Gus sends him over there to meet with Lydia so they can pay him as a ‘security consultant’.

He doesn’t have to launder money, but getting a paycheck is vastly superior to getting cash. It’s a no-show job like the construction jobs on the Sopranos (where they have to show occasionally anyway) but apparently Mike is not comfortable doing nothing for that big of a paycheck so he goes over there to do the job they pay him for.
This is wrong. It's definitely to launder money that Mike stole from Hector's truck. There is a whole scene about it in Season 3 where Mike offers to pay Gus a commission for a laundering it and Gus declines.
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08-11-2018 , 04:49 PM
Two things I just realized, while reading the last few posts:

1. We assumed with all the hair Gene has lost, that years have passed since his ABQ days. But as stressed out as he gets every time someone looks at him for longer than two seconds, maybe he's aging quite rapidly. Young Jimmy can keep his cool while running a con, because he knows there's little chance of getting caught, and even if he does get pinched, the punishment isn't anything major; but Old Gene is facing a lifetime of Hard Time, if not The Chair, if he gets discovered.

2. "Welcome to New Hampshire, Mr Lambert." Live Free or Die. Walt thought he was getting the former. When it wasn't there, he went for the latter.
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08-12-2018 , 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
"Welcome to New Hampshire, Mr Lambert." Live Free or Die. Walt thought he was getting the former. When it wasn't there, he went for the latter.
+1
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08-12-2018 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Philly03
At the end of season 3 Chuck and Jimmy had a falling out, Jimmy went to apologise to Chuck for everything that happened between them, Chuck told Jimmy he never even mattered to him. Jimmy looked up to Chuck and always wanted his approval. This crushed him. So much so that he went and ruined his reputation to fix the damage he caused to the old lady at Sandpiper.

When Jimmy found Chuck's house burned down with all they electronics in the backyard Jimmy correctly assumed he had relapsed. I think a part of him thought maybe Chuck really did love him and that their falling out may have caused his relapse. He realizes maybe he is at fault and he hates that he did that to his brother.

Now once he hears Howards story he realizes once and for all he really did not matter to Chuck. A weight is lifted off of him.
You're good at watching tv.
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08-12-2018 , 09:16 PM
Sneak Peek Ep. 2

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08-13-2018 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by steamraise
Sneak Peek Ep. 2
Spoiler:
When talking about repairmen, "they are a lonely bunch, for sure."

Anybody else old enough to get that reference?
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08-13-2018 , 06:11 PM
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I bet I'm old enough,but I don't get it.

Did ya see Jimmy's eyes light up when the guy mentioned the copier that was good for counterfeiting?


Is it 9pm yet?
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