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Old 10-11-2018, 02:55 PM   #701
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Re: Better Call Saul - season 4 - Aug. 6

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man how lazy am i that id rather die 20min sooner rather than dig a hole.
i also would be motivated partly by spite as i don't want to save this bastard from having to dig the grave himself.

tho in my present condition thankfully i wouldn't be faced with this dilemma.
tho if they insisted on having me dig my own grave that would indeed prolong my existence quite a bit.
I guess they could make your death more painful if you refuse.
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Old 10-11-2018, 02:55 PM   #702
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Re: Better Call Saul - season 4 - Aug. 6

Pine Barrens, too.
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Old 10-11-2018, 03:32 PM   #703
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Re: Better Call Saul - season 4 - Aug. 6

Wonder if Mike kills Lalo or will Gus take care of it personally due to him being a Salamanca
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Old 10-11-2018, 03:36 PM   #704
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Later with Walt we run into the same situation. Walt does plenty that would warrant Gus killing him, but he needs Walt to cook. If he kills Walt without a substitute in place, then he is stuck like he is now. So he doesn't kill Walt when he "normally" would have, and because of that decision, ultimately Walt kills him instead.

If Gus never had the Werner experience, maybe the whole thing with Walt plays out differently.
Not at first Walt didn't, from memory. I felt it was strongly implied that Gus was gonna have Walter killed anyway, soon as Gale knew his recipe.
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Old 10-11-2018, 05:09 PM   #705
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Re: Better Call Saul - season 4 - Aug. 6

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man how lazy am i that id rather die 20min sooner rather than dig a hole.
i also would be motivated partly by spite as i don't want to save this bastard from having to dig the grave himself.

tho in my present condition thankfully i wouldn't be faced with this dilemma.
tho if they insisted on having me dig my own grave that would indeed prolong my existence quite a bit.
Plus, they're giving you a weapon to use. You think a murderer is gonna focus his gun on you for 30 minutes while you dig your own grave? Just one flinch by him and you smack him with the shovel. Then off you go.
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Old 10-11-2018, 09:43 PM   #706
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Plus, they're giving you a weapon to use. You think a murderer is gonna focus his gun on you for 30 minutes while you dig your own grave? Just one flinch by him and you smack him with the shovel. Then off you go.
I think the average gunman is probably smart enough to stand out of immediate reach.

Also, don't forget that a short time after beginning digging one is actually standing partially in the hole, making a ninja shovel blast and escape even more unlikely.
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Old 10-11-2018, 10:12 PM   #707
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Re: Better Call Saul - season 4 - Aug. 6

as soon as I was given the shovel, I would attack. At least I'd go down swinging. No ****ing way I'm digging my own grave.

This season was quite subtle. I think it will grow in stature in coming years.
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Old 10-12-2018, 05:55 PM   #708
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Not at first Walt didn't, from memory. I felt it was strongly implied that Gus was gonna have Walter killed anyway, soon as Gale knew his recipe.
Yeah, that's exactly the problem. Old Gus would kill Walt right away and figures out who cooks later. New Gus hesitates until Gale is ready, which gives Walt the ability to kill Gale. Then he hesitates more because he has no backup plan.
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Old 10-13-2018, 07:32 AM   #709
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Re: Better Call Saul - season 4 - Aug. 6

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I really loved the season as a whole but absolutely hated the werner plot line.
they have no problem sending all those young reckless workers back and trust they won't say anything but because werner is dumb and wanted to spend a few days with his wife he's now such a threat they have to kill him and deal with the german lawyers and the investigation etc?

it makes zero sense and is just lazy sloppy writing.

also, mike says they're gonna make it look like an accident so what we're just supposed to believe the ppl investigating the "accident" are going to be so ****ing inept they miss a fatal bullet wound?

or are they going to somehow orchestrate an entire investigation that will satisfy the german lawyers and authorities and deal with all those loose ends all rather than believe this guy who hasn't give a single indication that he would want to turn mike in and get him n gus in trouble is going to suddenly have a change of heart because he snuck off for a few days to **** his wife?

it's ****ing idiotic.
if anything the total devotion and loyalty he has to his wife should demonstrate that he's the type of guy who is fiercely loyal to the people he cares about one of which is clearly mike.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

one of the defining characteristics of gus they tried to hammer home was he didn't just act irrationally out of anger, he was logical and restrained and once he trusted someone he was willing to hear them out and not rush to judgement.
There is no way any if the Germans make it out alive. They are all toast at this point.
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Old 10-13-2018, 07:36 AM   #710
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Just started BCS season 3. There is something about the first episode (Mabel) that is bugging me.

So Mike finds at the end of season 2 a note on his car saying 'dont' when he tries to kill Salamanca. He then goes to some graveyard and turns his car upside down and he finds the tracker inside the gas cap. He takes the tracker home and puts it in his other car (not the beige one but the black classic one).
Later he runs down the battery of the tracker and waits till some guy (presumably Gus, but no spoilers please) comes and picks the tracker up. My question is: how does this guy not immediately realize he has been played. Doesn't he see that the tracker is in the wrong car, not in the beige car where he left the note but in the black one.

I tried to search this on google but came up empty. What am I missing?
He went home and found that his second car was also bugged I believe.
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Old 10-13-2018, 07:44 AM   #711
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I think (though we may never know?) that Kim legit thought Jimmy had some deep-seeded issues regarding Chuck and was suppressing his devastation over losing his brother, which is why she kept encouraging him to see a therapist. It wasn't until after the hearing that she finally realized that Jimmy actually didn't give a **** and probably even blamed Chuck for keeping him at the ambulance-chaser level. His speech to the teenager who was denied the scholarship supports this.

(Though this doesn't jive all that well with previous seasons where we see Jimmy taking almost motherly care of Chuck when he wouldn't leave the house)
As to the last point, all of that changed when Chuck said "really, I never cared much about you at all." Go back and find that scene. Odenkirk does a magnificent job of having that be almost a physical click in the change in Jimmy's feelings for Chuck.
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