I'm not sure how seriously we can take what Mike tells Werner before killing him. He definitely could be lying to make things as painless as possible for Werner.

I don't think it's Gus' style to kill the workers who didn't do anything wrong or even the wife for that matter. Gus definitely doesn't like loose ends, but I don't recall him ever killing someone who didn't **** up or cross him (maybe forgetting something obvious). I could good arguments for either outcome: maybe he kills them, maybe he doesn't.

One thing that is interesting to think about is how this whole thing may have shaped approach to handling Walter. With Werner we have a guy who ****s up but has a very unique skill set that Gus really needs. Gus kills him, because it's the right think to do, but he ends up ****ed because it will not be easy to get someone to finish the job.

Later with Walt we run into the same situation. Walt does plenty that would warrant Gus killing him, but he needs Walt to cook. If he kills Walt without a substitute in place, then he is stuck like he is now. So he doesn't kill Walt when he "normally" would have, and because of that decision, ultimately Walt kills him instead.

If Gus never had the Werner experience, maybe the whole thing with Walt plays out differently.

Yeah, they are not gonna give his wife a closure with german lawyers and all that, that was all play to ease a grown man equipped with a childs emotional state.

He did save his wife though.

I honestly feel like that's the last we see of the German's going into Season 5 and we don't hear of them/it again. Werner is dead, the rest will be sent home and Mike explained that any follow ups instructed by the wife will be dealt with.. I don't see why they'd need to continue that storyline.

great point.
i doubt the writers even thought of that but its totally applicable regardless.

100% this. Whole german thing was off through the season and this was pretty bad. Either of the two options we have after Werner is killed are ludicrously unbelievable. (Accepting that 16! guys are going to say/do nothing about a friend/co worker getting killed or that Gus is just going to casually off 16 people from another country and that somehow won't get noticed).

It would be super terrible writing to establish the character Kai for no reason.

What are they going to say/do? They don't know he was killed. Just tell them the truth, that he ran off. Who knows what happened to him to after that? They don't know where they are. They don't know Gus. That's the whole point of keeping them blindfolded and sequestered, so they can't say anything even if they wanted to. Werner being killed doesn't fundamentally change anything with regard to it being bad news for Gus if they start talking, which is why he took such precautions to begin with. Of course he's not going to just kill them all now.

Good news from the ratings front as season 4 averages only dropped 10% compared to season 3 after a 33% drop from season 1 to season 2 and 25% drop from season 2 to season 3.

Looks like most people who stuck with it after season 2 will stay til the end now which should put some confidence in AMC.

I can see not featuring the Germans again in BCS, but I hope that they reconsider revisiting the characters in a future project. I am sure I am not the only person who would like to see some of Werner's backstory. How did he slide into a criminal environment like this? How did meet Kai and form a partnership? What's his wife like? Can't imagine they would leave all these questions unanswered.

About that German thing: Werner knew their exact location and about Gus Fring, none of the other guys does. That’s the big difference. All they could talk about would be about working in a super secret underground location in driving distance from Denver, Colorado.

TBH, there are valid reasons to get rid of Werner after construction is complete, even if everything went smoothly. T

The one thing I don’t understand is why they don’t have him finish the project and kill him right after.

They dont trust him to do anything any longer.
He could spill beans to the crew or tank the project or go rogue

you and your wife are building a house together, you find out she’s cheating on you...do you finish building the house with her?

That’s what they said on the show, but that doesn’t make it any less absurd. With their construction budget, they could easily afford two guys watching him 24/7 and use the threat of killing his wife and crew to make sure he doesn’t do anything stupid. Using intimidation is a very Gus Fring thing to do. Putting your high-end meth lab in an unfinished space is the exact opposite of what he stands for. Through all of BB and BCS we know him as a no half measures guy.

Did anyone compare images of the lab from BB to the current status from BCS? I am curious to see if they actually find another way to finish construction or if they basically tell us that the lab we know from BB was actually supposed to be way larger.

If the house belongs to me afterwards and she’s out of the picture? 100%, that’s just the smart business decision. Why would you do anything else and waste a bunch of money on top of your marriage?

If I have an employee that messes up but I need him to finish his current project and I can be pretty sure he doesn’t mess up again, I let him finish before firing him.

It's obscene that they did not have Werner dig his own grave. That's just bad management.

okay, well your wife accidentally ran a forklift through a load-bearing wall and has already doubled the time you thought you could be finished by...all while sucking dick on the side.

but I guess she decorated well.

I previously thought they flew the engineers into Denver to keep the site a secret. I didn't realize that that it is the only western airport in the BCS universe. Maybe season 5 has Gus keeping the German crew distracted by building ABQ. Opens up cameo opportunities for the air traffic controller dude.

I wonder what happens to Lalo (Great addition to the cast imo) & Nacho... I'd like to think Gus has Lalo killed & Nacho gets out with his father and disappears but I doubt the latter very much.

BTW where's Tuco this season? Did he go to prison for the Mike incident? I thought Mike admitting the gun was his which prevented that or was it just preventing a super long sentence? Maybe they just couldn't get the actor back at that time.

Also Krazy-8 now being a money collector for the Cartel it kind of doesn't make sense that they'd be no follow ups of him completely disappearing after Walt kills him.

I think Season 5 will be the last season anyway unless they've confirmed otherwise? They should be able to tie everything up in ten more hour episodes.

i never understood why ppl dig their own graves.
i mean at that point its pretty obv what's going in the grave you're digging why do all the manual labor for the ******* who's about to kill you?

Prolongs your existence?

But "digging his own grave" was both literally and metaphorically Werner's livelyhood and passion and the only reason the character was even written into the show. I mean, the stereotype hit would leave him encased in cement in the laundry lab, letting him rot in the air just underscores Mike's unnecessary cruelty.

man how lazy am i that id rather die 20min sooner rather than dig a hole.
i also would be motivated partly by spite as i don't want to save this bastard from having to dig the grave himself.

tho in my present condition thankfully i wouldn't be faced with this dilemma.
tho if they insisted on having me dig my own grave that would indeed prolong my existence quite a bit.

Take lots of breaks!

At that point you probably just take a swing with the shovel at the gunman and hope for a miracle.

An interesting thing happened in that scenario on the season finale of "Mr Inbetween" yesterday.