Call me contrarian but I didn't have the problem with the witness-stand meltdown that others itt apparently had, without it there's not that much reason to even show the hearing at all, we could have just been told about it as Kim and Jimmy reminisce over drinks. Chuck has basically been ducking his mental illness for 2.5 seasons now and sooner or later there had to be a breakdown so that was as good a time for it as any imo. I have more of a problem with the convoluted way he got Rebecca there than anything else that happened at the hearing.

Why?

From the courts perspective, Jimmy was a great brother who took care of Chuck for years. And Chuck is a mentally ill person with an insane vendetta against his brother. Then Chuck is shown to be living in incredibly dangerous conditions, it makes perfect sense that his brother would do anything to try and help him, including lie.

It's a lot more believable than the mentally ill person who hates his brother claiming his brother tampered with his documents while having no actual proof of it besides the tape.

Jimmy owned the hell out of Chuck, and made him look like a lying mentally ill person who would do anything to sabotage his law career. Or not even lying but mentally ill and believing his own delusions.

Mentally ill guy is faced with his wife he still loves and was willing to go insane lengths to hide his illness from because he was so ashamed, then is proven that his illness is a mental one and not a physical one, has a breakdown. OMG unbelievable! lol.

Jimmy knew exactly how to manipulate and own Chuckie boy, it isn't even slightly unrealistic or silly. People acting like Chuck is some normal elite lawyer, dude is a crazy person with an insane vendetta against his brother.

I wish I waited the release of every episode to binge watch it. Waiting a week is so annoying.

Looking back, Howard kind of telegraphed subsequent events when he strongly urged Chuck not to testify. If Chuck listens to Howard we're watching Better Call Someone Else Cause Saul's Disbarred now

I'm really curious to see how HHM (Howard) handles Chuck going forward. Is that breakdown going to cause them to have to review all of Chuck's prior work? I can see Howard going hard at Chuck to take his equity in the firm away from him.

Howard already saw Chuck nearly crack in the court room in the mesa verde hearing. He knew he was a liability. It was made clear he was many times in this show, I don't get why it's hard to grasp when he finally did.

I did like Howard's comeback to Kim about Jimmy at Davis and Main....and Kim's "No."

I liked the dagger look that Howard shot at Kim as he walked past their table after testifying.

I was also thinking "I hope Kim received in writing Howard's pledge that HHM would pay off her student loans."

Also, can anyone explain why in the scene when Jimmy brakes into Chuck's house Howard needed to climb over the backyard wall rather than simply drive up to Chuck's house and knock on the front door?

It's not like he was afraid of being seen by Jimmy, since he was specifically asking Chuck to reduce the PI's duties to nighttime hours on the belief that Jimmy wouldn't be showing up during the daytime, if at all.

And yet again Howard relies on Chuck for the entire case against Jimmy. It really didn't occur to him to deploy his vast resources at HHM to build the case? And the Bar Association (who's biased in favor of HHM) didn't start sniffing around Jimmy's other antics? There was enough in the first two seasons to get Jimmy sanctioned before the copy shop thing.

Jimmy could have squashed Chuck at any point in the series but he chose not too for various reasons. Chuck has been teetering on the edge of insanity/ mental breakdown for quite some time. In the BCS universe, well before the series started and as hinted at- the moment his ex wife left him.

This is going to sound weird, but the reason Howard didn't squash Chuck is almost exactly the same reason why Jimmy didn't squash Chuck up until this point- Chuck, while being very flawed, is also very smart and more importantly, is family. For the same reasons Jimmy didn't throw Chuck in the insane asylum is almost exactly the same reasons why Howard didn't cut Chuck out of the business/ let him do his own thing. I wouldn't be surprised in the Jimmy/Chuck fallout, where Chuck basically says Howard is the brother he always wanted but never had.

This series is incredibly good TV. It might even surpass BB.

This explains why Chuck didn't react (point 1) but not why the Disciplinary Counsel, i.e., the prosecutor, didn't object to the pictures (point 2). It would be odd for their authenticity to have been stipulated to before the hearing because then Chuck would *not* have been under siege and would at the least question when they were taken.

I think they glossed over this because they needed those pictures in to tell the story they wanted to tell. But even a simple question like asking Chuck "does this accurately depict the appearance of the inside of your house" should have been enough to authenticate them under the lax evidentiary standards of the Disciplinary Board, and takes less than 10 seconds for the question and response.

Chuck by the end of that episode:

You're being pretty OCD about the pictures. The pictures did not seal the deal, and weren't even significant imo. It also really wasn't a trial- i mean standards are really lax and both sides repeatedly crossed the line. The moment Chuck said that was indeed his house, there's pretty much no point in objecting- and by that point already, Chuck was being a little bullheaded/ red in the face.

Did you miss the scene where Howard specifically tells Chuck he can't spend that many resources on the case? And convinces him to send one of the P.I.'s home? It's a waste of resources, the case isn't making HHM any money. It's a witch hunt by Chuck and doesn't benefit HHM at all. Only reason Howard was involved at all was because he cares about Chuck.

So is chuck's mental illness in play now all the sudden with the judges? Even so, I think that AND Chuck hating Jimmy still shouldn't matter for the case at hand.

Also, the planting a battery seemed illegal or at least more of a case for Jimmy being shady and unfit to be a lawyer. idk

You are completing missing the point.

Jimmy is arguing that he was just agreeing with chuck on the tape and saying whatever he wanted to hear because he was concerned about the state of his house and what it reflected of his taste of mind. Chuck was so out of control jimmy was just trying to talk him down.

no, I didn't miss that point...

LOL!

What law did he break? Littering?

I'm talking about on Jimmie's part, tampering with a trial or whatever...littering? idiot.

Attempted murder

People do hard time for giving away batteries.

Rebecca says when Jimmy leaves the room "can you believe Jimmy became a lawyer!" so it must have been very shortly after he passed the bar.

It's not a trial- it's a disciplinary hearing. They've mentioned multiple times that it's kinda "anything goes" compared to the formality of a trial. Nobody is sworn in or anything like that.

You're supposed to have remembered Chuck telling Kim about the nature of a disciplinary hearing as the reason why the tape was fair game and see it as a bit of a gotcha for Jimmy to use that against Chuck with his battery chicanery.

Again having a character explain away a plot weakness. I doubt HHM would try something this risky to their reputation and not have all their ducks in order.


Technically the planting of the battery could be construed as