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06-07-2018 , 03:12 AM
I think it helped that Paige was in the garage. It much harder for Stan to take them down in front of their daughter. While he worries/feels he being lied to by the parents the daughter comes off more sincere. Plus seeing that they really are a family that love each other. And Stan even though it's his job to take down these people understands their lives more than a typical agent since his relationship with them and his affair with what's her name super hot woman who was killed.

I forgot Stan's wife's name. I was wondering who rene was when they said that. That's a shocker. Was there ever a hint of her being a spy before this? She has to be a spy doesn't she? I mean why wouldn't she be? Why would Phillip say that if she wasn't? I gotta rewatch that garage scene again see what Phillip said that she was or thinks she is?

I loved this show when it first came out. Some wondered in the in between seasons if it was going to fall off. But it finished very strong. Garage scene was really good. I usually like the big shocking finale of but this was so good that it didn't need that. Classy ending.

I started to dislike Elisabeth a little over last couple seasons of doing some bad stuff and also how she treated Phillip and Paige. But they turned her around near the end for me. I was wondering if she was going to have a bad fate in the end the way the season started.

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06-07-2018 , 08:51 AM
There were questions about Rene from the start. I don't remember if it was Philip or Elizabeth, but one of them asked the handler lady if Rene was one of them last season. Pretty sure she denied it.
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06-08-2018 , 07:59 AM
Yes Philip and Elizabeth were suspicious of Rene the whole time

I loved the ending. The last 2-episodes were amazing.

Letting Stan live to take care of Henry is awesome too

Paige was drinking back in the us with no disguise right? I'm guessing she just denies any knowledge

But yes the garage scene and the moment Elizabeth sees Paige on the platform were the best 2 moments of the entire series besides maybe Martha walking on the plane
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06-08-2018 , 10:14 AM
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Paige was drinking back in the us with no disguise right? I'm guessing she just denies any knowledge
Only Stan knew she had any involvement and he's not going to do anything, so she can just deny.
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06-09-2018 , 12:20 AM
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Only Stan knew she had any involvement and he's not going to do anything, so she can just deny.
Yeah, he only knows that she knew who they really were when she was 16, but he doesn't even know she actually participated in ops. The only issue for her is if he ever tells Henry that Paige knew, although I suppose she'd want to tell him herself eventually.
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06-09-2018 , 12:43 AM
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I gotta rewatch that garage scene again see what Phillip said that she was or thinks she is?
Philip says "I think Renee may be one of us" and then "but I'm not sure"

I've always thought she was...
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06-09-2018 , 10:47 AM
yeah he was never sure. if he said he was sure i am sure stan would leave her. stan now lives without trusting her fully.
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06-12-2018 , 09:20 AM
I read some interviews after the finale, and the show runners never even told the actress whether she was a Russian or not.
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06-15-2018 , 07:27 PM
The main characters in 2018...

Stan would be retired - at least 77 years old - on his government pension in Las Vegas or Florida. Hard to tell if he would have shifted to the private sector a few years after the show but if he did it would be in some kind of security business. If he chose to continue with the FBI, he would have two promotions at best. He would be regularly playing 4-8 limit holdem at the Orleans with a Go Gamble hat on. He wouldn't be a nit, and would be very nice to the staff.

The Jennings family would have had an emotional family reunion by 1995 at longest. The fall of the Soviet Union and the Berlin Wall before 1990 would have made this easy. However, the reunion could never be in the United States where Elizabeth and Philip would be guilty of multiple life sentence crimes. The family would for their first reunion meet at a beach resort in Slovenia or Turkey. Possibly Greece. If fake identities are necessary, then easy play for Elizabeth and Philip.

Elizabeth and Philip would have prospered. Their extensive knowledge and experience as spies in the US would give them lots of opportunities in Yeltsin's and eventually Putin's Russia. Due to their experience in the travel business they would have a predisposition to entrepreneurship. They could be pioneers in internet travel agencies in Europe.

In 2018, Paige would be 51 years old, Henry would be 48, Elizabeth would be 75, and Philip would be around 77. The latter two would be abundantly retired and probably socializing within the Putin inner circle. Paige would have probably become an alcoholic in her early twenties but would recover with the help of Stan and Henry, who would probably be some sort of academic. Hard to predict whether the two kids would join the business, assuming their parents go into business at all.

Oleg would be out of jail by the early 2000s. He'd miss his father's death and kid's childhood. Stan's boss probably becomes a decorated FBI leader. Martha's fate is very hard to guess. Stan makes Rene fail at FBIing but makes it look like he had no part in the failure.

As of 2018, Henry has long forgiven his parents. Paige too. There is a total of 5 to 8 grandchildren for the former spies. Liz and Phil could have one or two more children, definitely Russian. Possibly online poker players. They'd meet Stan and probably stay at his house in Las Vegas every year during the WSOP.

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07-06-2018 , 06:24 PM
No effin WAY would any FBI dude let not one but TWO best-of-the-best KGB Directorate S officers just walk outa there in 80s America or any era America for that matter. Other than that the show was awesome.
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07-06-2018 , 09:53 PM
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I loved it. The soundtrack (brothers in arms and then I still haven’t found what I’m looking for) was perfect, and the lengthy wordless climax was perfect.
Glad a couple people caught Brothers in Arms. Now soundtrack in 2 historic episodes of TV. Also time appropriate. (1985 release)

Interesting that they had Stan catch on and bring up Phillip and Elizabeth to Adderholz. If Stan doesn't then he is very much in line to draw suspicion. Living next to and socializing with 2 deep cover agents for years isn't a resume builder. Remember, he drew suspicion with the pen in the office.

I don't think Oleg Burov would languish in jail too long. As part of the save Gorbachev conspiracy, he has a good case for exchange.
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07-07-2018 , 04:28 AM
I felt the same re Oleg & reckon that the pro Gorbachev faction winning would lead to him being traded shortly after. I don't think either Philip or Elizabeth would have ever been able to ever leave even post Soviet Russia without worrying about interpol or arrests & extradition in many countries. Claudia very possibly ended up in a gulag.
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07-07-2018 , 07:42 AM
Is that wretch Pastor Tim still breathing in 2018?
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07-07-2018 , 11:36 AM
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Is that wretch Pastor Tim still breathing in 2018?
Yeah him actually living was also pretty silly imho regardless of the reasons given for this.
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07-08-2018 , 03:32 AM
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Only Stan knew she had any involvement and he's not going to do anything, so she can just deny.
She'd potentially be vulnerable to blackmail by the KGB or later FIS though.

Re Rene- I thought the ambiguity was great but Claudia also told Elizabeth that neither she not Philip's background would withstand FBI checks, hence their second generation illegals programme, so I don't know if their checks on personnel such as Rene would be just as stringent. If so, then it's safe to assume Rene isn't a secret illegal, but again I thought it was great how they did it.
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10-16-2018 , 12:50 AM
Sorta binged all 6 seasons on Amazon. They kept showing previews for "final season of Americans in 2018" and I thought there was a 7th coming.... lolol

Stan is so pwned.
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01-27-2019 , 03:39 PM
Watched it all over the last month or so.

Very good show, great last season, insanely good ending imo. Stan and Oleg really grew on me during the last season.

Just one short scene that I didn't quite understand and that threw me off a little. What's with that dream Elizabeth is having in the train, where she's in bed with a black dude and says "I didn't want kids anyway" ?
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01-28-2019 , 05:54 AM
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Watched it all over the last month or so.

Very good show, great last season, insanely good ending imo. Stan and Oleg really grew on me during the last season.

Just one short scene that I didn't quite understand and that threw me off a little. What's with that dream Elizabeth is having in the train, where she's in bed with a black dude and says "I didn't want kids anyway" ?
It’s been a while, but wasn’t that a flashback to show Elizabeth didn’t want kids but then she had them and embraced it?
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01-28-2019 , 06:01 AM
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It’s been a while, but wasn’t that a flashback to show Elizabeth didn’t want kids but then she had them and embraced it?
Has to be a season 1 flashback then, because it's the only season I watched back in the day when it first aired before bingewatching 2>6 recently. Or i'm getting alzheimer already.
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01-28-2019 , 08:59 AM
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Has to be a season 1 flashback then, because it's the only season I watched back in the day when it first aired before bingewatching 2>6 recently. Or i'm getting alzheimer already.
not a flashback to a previous season. a flashback to something that happened in her past but hadn't yet been revealed to the audience.
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01-28-2019 , 10:13 AM
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not a flashback to a previous season. a flashback to something that happened in her past but hadn't yet been revealed to the audience.
I see. I don't know, it felt kind of weird to me. That scene threw me off a few minutes in this otherwise insanely good finish.
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01-28-2019 , 11:25 AM
Watch this episode from season 1. It will give you most of the background.

Agree that scene was not a flashback to season 1, but a flashback ~20 years to about the time Elizabeth was pregnant with Paige (during?).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregory_(The_Americans)
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11-15-2020 , 12:57 AM
Finally finished the series after stopping halfway through s5 a year and a half ago. Overall liked the show. S6 seemed produced differently. Lots of weird music that didn't seem to fit and montages.
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11-15-2020 , 12:59 AM
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this season was so pointless
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this should have been the last season imo

it really went nowhere compared to past seasons, pretty disappointing
Finally reading through this thread and I can see why I stopped halfway through s5
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11-15-2020 , 01:02 AM
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Bump. One of my favorite shows, thought the season opener was good. Really liked the music choices.
100% opposite. Felt opener was really weird, mostly the music and montages
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