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05-26-2016 , 08:44 PM
I was hoping it would last longer and reach jesse-skylar-walt levels of awkwardness.
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05-26-2016 , 09:21 PM
I figured out why I couldn't figure out how they were going to use the koreans - it was because their plan was stupid. Completely reliant on luck and incompetence.
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05-26-2016 , 09:37 PM
Their MO has always been more on the psychological side. Why do you think luck and incompetence?
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05-27-2016 , 02:32 PM
what was stunning to me was that the way to bypass security in this super high security building was simply to have a guy waive you in.

I was picturing some military grade security the way they kept talking about "Level Four".
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05-27-2016 , 02:39 PM
Thats a biohazard level description. Has to do with labs, containment, deadliness and communicability of the pathogens, and security. The office area itself I'm not surprised would be fairly low security.
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05-28-2016 , 11:30 AM
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So FX just renewed it for

5th season 13 episodes
6th and final season for 10 episodes

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...nding-in-2018/
Great series, will get a good wrap-up, and will piss off nunnehi for two more years. Awesome.
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06-01-2016 , 09:52 PM
This is probably the best show with the least amount of love on 2+2.

I'm anxiously waiting for the next episode. 9 minutes!
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06-02-2016 , 02:44 AM
They've done a great slow burn this season. Next week should be incredible.
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06-02-2016 , 04:10 AM
Good episode, although I'm really growing to hate Page's constant whiny complaining about every damn thing. What a diva.
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06-02-2016 , 09:28 AM
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Good episode, although I'm really growing to hate Page's constant whiny complaining about every damn thing. What a diva.
It's one of my biggest complaints about the show. She's been like that since we first saw her, it's tilting.
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06-02-2016 , 12:48 PM
Sadly, as a father of a daughter just past her teen years, I can attest thats how they act. Her and all her friends.
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06-03-2016 , 03:28 AM
The procedural stuff with the FBI I really liked. I bet that's a lot of what their job really amounts to, and in this show we've barely even seen them hard at work, aside from the fancy stuff. They know they're hot on the trail, and they're energized by that.

More and more I'm rooting for Stan and the FBI to catch the Communist spies, despite all the show's efforts to sugarcoat the USSR and its heinous crimes.
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06-03-2016 , 09:18 AM
you'll never convince me to root against Keri Russel, I don't care what that weird thing on her lip is that google images shows me has always been there but somehow i've never noticed until recently.
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06-03-2016 , 09:43 AM
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you'll never convince me to root against Keri Russel, I don't care what that weird thing on her lip is that google images shows me has always been there but somehow i've never noticed until recently.
She probably has a few $$$ in the bank she should get that thing frozen off imo
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06-03-2016 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by kioshk
More and more I'm rooting for Stan and the FBI to catch the Communist spies, despite all the show's efforts to sugarcoat the USSR and its heinous crimes.

If that's your read on the show, then the bias is yours. I think the show has done a good job of humanizing the enemy, who throughout the Cold War was depicted as evil, and showing that both sides were acting in rational self interest.
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06-03-2016 , 11:17 AM
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I think the show has done a good job of humanizing the enemy, who throughout the Cold War was depicted as evil, and showing that both sides were acting in rational self interest.
minor difference is that one was a repressive dictatorship that killed tens of millions of their own citizens and jailed tens of millions more as "dissidents"; did not have the consent of the governed; did not allow their citizens to learn about the world through a free press; propagandized their population; and extended their military hegemony to equally repressive vassal dictatorships, some of which exist to this day. The country was evil incarnate, and one of the darkest stains on human history.

Your derpiness aside, what I do like is that you are starting to see the communist brainwashing unravel with characters like Philip, the tall Russian, and the lab monkey as they question the motives of their dictatorship and come to appreciate the United States.

Last edited by domer2; 06-03-2016 at 11:22 AM.
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06-03-2016 , 03:28 PM
Not gonna politard it up here, but the USSR was plenty evil and we were the good guys, big picture. Maybe that's not fashionable to say these days but it's true.
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06-03-2016 , 07:14 PM
I didn't mean to imply that both countries' governments were morally equal, just that the Soviets were still people who aren't that much different than us, just happened to have the bad luck to be born in the USSR. If you want to think that every KGB agent was evil incarnate then you are welcome to though.
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06-03-2016 , 07:27 PM
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...If you want to think that every KGB agent was evil incarnate then you are welcome to though.
on your way to constructing a mighty fine strawman here.
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06-05-2016 , 02:38 PM
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minor difference is that one was a repressive dictatorship that killed tens of millions of their own citizens and jailed tens of millions more as "dissidents"; did not have the consent of the governed; did not allow their citizens to learn about the world through a free press; propagandized their population; and extended their military hegemony to equally repressive vassal dictatorships, some of which exist to this day. The country was evil incarnate, and one of the darkest stains on human history.

Your derpiness aside, what I do like is that you are starting to see the communist brainwashing unravel with characters like Philip, the tall Russian, and the lab monkey as they question the motives of their dictatorship and come to appreciate the United States.
No idea who this cat is, exploding out of nowhere, but great post. Would read again, despite .1 share.
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06-05-2016 , 10:06 PM
Last few episodes have been good. Paige storyline is painful, get her some real acting lessons. Sad that a person's been a show for 4 years with a ton of great actors and is still so not good. I'm not sure if she was trying to run Matthew or she likes him, but man that is awful either way. The directing in the episode 2 ago was actually quite good with a pretty clunky script. All of the awkardness in various scenes played very well. It had nice tension.

The intrigue was good in both the most recent episodes (minus it being so easy to get in the guy's office and get the code, and the FBI two day process appearing to go across two scenes), and the FBI stuff was pretty good. They even managed to tie every storyline into the big story without it feeling horrifically forced. Too bad Oleg doesn't know the woman he's with is essentially running the program in the U.S. he just called out to Stan. It was pretty interesting that Oleg basically said the Soviets wanted the weapons, but were very likely unequipped to handle them safely due to money concerns.

I still have problems with the show vamping for 75% of the season, but its payoff (so far) has been better than probably any other season of the show. I think this season's payoff actually plays weirder knowing that the show has two more seasons coming. That's a lot of time to resolve what should be starting to fall apart already.

And Henry needs to shave that effing thing off his upper lip.
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06-05-2016 , 11:13 PM
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Too bad Oleg doesn't know the woman he's with is essentially running the program in the U.S. he just called out to Stan.
you must have missed the scene where she told him she was being promoted and oleg said your program must have gone well and she said if we dont all die then yes it went well and then oleg went and told this to stan.

of course oleg knows.
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06-05-2016 , 11:33 PM
No, I don't think so. All she ever told him was that she was part of a super secret (bad) program no one talks about. That's as much as he knows.

You could be right, but that's filling in one too many blanks (I know The Americans loves the deus ex machina as much as any show I've ever seen, but even though it's written by Weisberg I don't buy it). She never said she was doing biological stuff. It could be nukes. He certainly didn't intend to sell her out, he's not that way...as far as we know. I think it's just meant to be an instance of collateral damage that was unexpected.

And that, of course, ties into the scene with Stan and conscience due to the bodies piling up...possibly a Graham Yost concoction.
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06-06-2016 , 02:35 AM
Pretty sure they had a scene earlier in the season where she strongly implies to Oleg what department she is working for. He definitely knows he's screwing her over.
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06-06-2016 , 02:45 AM
He knows what department she works for, he does not know what that department does. No one except the people in it know what they do. They are definitely black ops.

Don't forget she told the Rezident to get the eff out of a room she was in. That's how much power she has.
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