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05-01-2014 , 09:07 PM
I have no idea what you're talking about. I guess season 1 was just incredibly forgettable for me.
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05-01-2014 , 09:44 PM
Do you remember when Philip was kicked out of the house by Elizabeth? There was an episode where a woman who was Philip's real childhood love in Russia came in on an operation or something. They ended up sleeping together, and Philip lied about it. Elizabeth got mad and kicked Philip out. I can't remember if it was this character, but I'm thinking it's probably not.
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05-02-2014 , 08:50 PM
Definitely a different character. Thanks for the recap though, I remember it now. That other girl he was in love with was a kgb agent. She wanted to run away from the kgb and leave Russia or something, I can't recall if she ever went through with that. Annalise is the wife of some political figure, and Philip is conning her into thinking he's Swedish SS. I thought they were both one-off characters in season 1, nice to see one of them again, even if I didn't remember her.
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05-09-2014 , 02:05 AM
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05-09-2014 , 04:57 PM
that episode kind of sucked, just more of the same but no good scenes. I'm getting a little sick of paige's schtick too. And they didn't follow up on elizabeth's last disguise (at the aa meeting) and instead went into a new disguise for philip, while they should really be finishing the annalise stuff instead.
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05-11-2014 , 06:17 PM
Wtf? Are you people watching the same show?
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05-11-2014 , 06:42 PM
4 High, explain what was good about that episode. The answer, to me, is very little. The only thing I really liked was that it actually appeared (for a minute) that the Rezidentura and Nina are working together to oust Oleg. I wasn't so sure by the end of the episode.

They needed to heavily advance the plot in that episode, and it was basically in neutral with a few more plot drops added rather than showing us where they're headed (it really seems the arc of this season is "will Stan betray his country?" (he already has), and the second big story is will the protagonists let Paige love Jesus? It's too close to the end of the season for an episode like that. It was boring based on the arc they had in the past several episodes. I'm beginning to lose confidence that the season will end well, because the audience is still completely effing clueless about Nina and her intentions. If that were episode 10, it would have been fine, but it was not fine for episode 11.
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05-15-2014 , 09:13 PM
Surprised there's no love for last night's ep in this thread. Really tightening the screws on the all the story lines (yeah, amazing how disparate lines are coming to such extreme conclusions at the same moment in time).

Really hinting in Nina on the run somehow next season.
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05-16-2014 , 12:47 AM
It seems almost guaranteed that Stan will fall for the trap and give up the echo stuff though.

I loved how Martha knew about his hairpiece already. Rhys's reaction was golden.
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05-16-2014 , 01:59 AM
I'd like to think the show is building towards Phillips and Elizabeth "running/handling" Stan. If they don't resolve the Stan leaking information to the Russians, I have to think thats where next season is headed. Wife leaves you for another man, your kid is indifferent to you, you've been tricked by the Russians and fallen for a double agent... AND your neighbors were spies the whole time. I can already see the devastation in Stan's face when he first meets with Elizabeth or Stan. That has to be something the show is building towards IMO. I'm excited to see if it gets there next season.

However, I'm rooting for Stan to be pulling a long con and I hope he emerges from all of this heroically to end the season. GO USA.
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05-16-2014 , 03:02 AM
And then Stan flips them.
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05-16-2014 , 03:18 PM
If someone wouldn't mind giving a brief summary of the special ops guy that's tracking Jared I'd really appreciate it. I must have missed something at the beginning of his storyline because I've been confused about who he is and who he's working for the whole time. How did Philip and Elizabeth get him to work with them, he obviously hates them? And why does he want to kill Jared?
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05-16-2014 , 05:52 PM
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And then Stan flips them.
That would seem to be the obvious endgame if this were a movie or finite mini-series. Between the Center doing something abhorrent and love for the kids, they turn/defect w the help of Stan.

Not sure thats how a series will play out. Hopefully the writers will get 1/2 season heads up when its going to end.
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05-16-2014 , 06:01 PM
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If someone wouldn't mind giving a brief summary of the special ops guy that's tracking Jared I'd really appreciate it. I must have missed something at the beginning of his storyline because I've been confused about who he is and who he's working for the whole time. How did Philip and Elizabeth get him to work with them, he obviously hates them? And why does he want to kill Jared?
The KGB was blackmailing him (Capt. Andrew Larrick) for being gay, not sure if it was phillip and elizabeth or if they took over for the dead couple (likely if he killed them and wants to finish off Jared).

They got him to give them info to get into a training facility for Sandinistas. They got pictures to out the training, but were discovered and had to kill some folks on the way out. Larrick was out of country when this happened.

Now he is back and he wants revenge.

Probably can catch up on back episodes somewhere. At a minimum there are reviews/plot summaries online.
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05-16-2014 , 06:10 PM
I don't think them flipping has to come at the end. I think it can come halfway through the entire run and still work well enough for a couple of seasons until they're caught. Maybe a bad analogy depending on how you felt about it, but kinda like Lost. Everyone thought it was over if they ever made it off the island.
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05-16-2014 , 06:50 PM
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I don't think them flipping has to come at the end. I think it can come halfway through the entire run and still work well enough for a couple of seasons until they're caught. Maybe a bad analogy depending on how you felt about it, but kinda like Lost. Everyone thought it was over if they ever made it off the island.
Agree-difference between a series of unknown length and something finite.

Could be a great final season on the run.

*Imagine (Phillip Elizabeth, Stan, Nina, their precocious 5 year old that was born the season before, with the kids being double soviet agents ratting them out in the end). You have to believe in the cause mother--BANG fade to black

*If written by your standard TV hack from 80's and 90's
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05-18-2014 , 08:41 PM
I thought the first half of Larick's revenge scheme was brilliantly planned, but what's up with the second half? Why is he going after the kid? Isn't it Philip and Elizabeth that he wants revenge on? I figured the "signal the Centre from home, what are the chances the FBI has someone monitoring Falls Church right now" was the setup for Larick finding out where they lived. I also thought it was the season finale for most of the episode.

I even thought the message to save Jared might've been a plant by Larick to lure Philip and Elizabeth somewhere (or perhaps split them up). I mean, why does Kate even think it's important to protect Jared? He's whatever. The FBI pretty much knows his parents were KGB already. I feel like they could've kept him in the dark, let him live his life, and taken their chances. As played, he could still grow up for a few years, get some money, and if he's pissed at the KGB for sending him off to Austria or some crap, contact the U.S. then.
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05-18-2014 , 08:56 PM
I took the whole save Jared thing as there is something that we don't really know about him yet that he's more important than he seems. One of the reasons the handler was meeting with him sans costume.
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05-18-2014 , 10:47 PM
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The KGB was blackmailing him (Capt. Andrew Larrick) for being gay, not sure if it was phillip and elizabeth or if they took over for the dead couple (likely if he killed them and wants to finish off Jared).

They got him to give them info to get into a training facility for Sandinistas. They got pictures to out the training, but were discovered and had to kill some folks on the way out. Larrick was out of country when this happened.

Now he is back and he wants revenge.

Probably can catch up on back episodes somewhere. At a minimum there are reviews/plot summaries online.
Ok, thanks. Definitely missed the part where he was gay, couldn't figure out what they had on him.
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05-22-2014 , 03:49 AM
This show really deserves more attention around here. Great season finale that really wrapped up the season plots nicely while also setting up the tension for next year.
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05-22-2014 , 08:09 AM
That finale was so good. Jared twist was awesome. I can only hope that that wasn't the last we see of Nina
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05-22-2014 , 09:01 AM
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Great season finale that really wrapped up the season plots nicely while also setting up the tension for next year.
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That finale was so good. Jared twist was awesome. I can only hope that that wasn't the last we see of Nina
Agree, loved it as well, and already looking forward to season 3.
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05-22-2014 , 05:58 PM
Loved the final as well.
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05-23-2014 , 07:03 AM
Just marathoned the last 6 episodes tonight. (nhl playoffs have been tying up my tv watching time)

Very happy with the way the season turned out.

Once the new handler met with the son, it was an easy guess on his plot twist. Would have been more interesting (and scary) if he had killed Larrick, then went with the kgb to be set up as another mole, not knowing he was burned and going to end up alone in Moscow somewhere.
Think the writers did ok with Stan and Nina. They both got ****ed over, but it couldn't have really gone any other way. Stan is too important to the story to lose.
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05-24-2014 , 02:21 PM
About halfway through he walks out of bakery and talks to the people with the map. They show the name of the bakery (Holtermann's) and I realize I know that place. My father used to go there all the time when I was a kid. So strange because I was just this week thinking of the place for the first time in years wondering if it was still around.
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