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it doesn't matter what you'd listen to, David Cook is technically superior in vocals in every conceivable way.

Also, David A is a way better singer than Lee, but I'd rather listen to Lee.

Does this make Lee a better singer, no, just what I prefer. I'm cool with you liking Lee more, but confuse that for more talented

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05-20-2010 , 09:37 PM

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Yeti

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thehip,

what do you think the % chance is lee now wins?

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05-20-2010 , 11:08 PM

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thehip,

what do you think the % chance is lee now wins?

he has no chance

Lee's a favorite for sure.

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05-20-2010 , 11:14 PM

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lee is terrible and has lame facial hair

he is also 4.5-1 to ship it, barring a combination choke-job and crystal domination in the finale, so load up and get paid. the betting markets are all way off right now imo

crystal is an infinitely better singer and musician

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05-20-2010 , 11:20 PM

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4.5-1? wtf no way man.

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05-21-2010 , 12:23 AM

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thats my read

i have some early crystal at +350 action, but i currently believe lee is more than 4-1 to ship it right now and therefore have jumped all over -180 to -200.

i really just think the market is being way too irrational and is unable to comprehend that someone who was the clear favorite, clearly the most talented, who was -150 or so from 6 people on down, could now possibly be +400 headsup against some hack douche karaoking boner. but that is the reality i am seeing

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05-21-2010 , 12:56 AM

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Grue

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Wrong thread but this exact thing happened last year and no one wants to hedge this late and they get killed. Tons of value shorting Crystal on WSEX I'm pretty sure and almost regardless of performances I'd expect her to drop 10-15 points before elimination.

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05-21-2010 , 02:49 AM

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i don't believe for a second she didn't know she was at least 90% to go through. if you didn't know that either that blows my mind. how ryan said it was fast but clear.

yeah i don't really like her.

edit : 'joining lee...for a shot...at the title...is....crystal bowersox!'

how on earth is this confusing?

Given that you watched it, this complaint seems absurd. He announced what he was announcing way quicker than he usually does, the crowd was still making noise at this point, she wasn't acting shocked that she made it through, she was making sure she didn't have a Derek Zoolander reaction to the result when she didn't know for 100% certain.

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05-21-2010 , 02:52 AM

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PunnyYouSayThat

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so how does the last show work, is it split up into two nights?

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05-21-2010 , 06:12 AM

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the only thing worrying me about the final is the fact that crystal is going second. it's a little harder to give lee that all-out unreal pimpage if he goes first.

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05-21-2010 , 06:19 AM

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I def don't think Lee has it in the bag.

Are they doing some lame original song written by Kara or whoever this year?

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05-21-2010 , 01:23 PM

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I def don't think Lee has it in the bag.

Are they doing some lame original song written by Kara or whoever this year?

probably. I hope Crystal shows up and just crushes Lee.

But yeah, the pimping on Lee's last song was so blatant.

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05-21-2010 , 04:11 PM

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the only thing worrying me about the final is the fact that crystal is going second. it's a little harder to give lee that all-out unreal pimpage if he goes first.

meh, going second means you get to answer what the first person did. I remember last year Kris Allen bitch slapping Lambert with his version of "Heartless" which was awesome.

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05-21-2010 , 05:38 PM

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meh, going second means you get to answer what the first person did. I remember last year Kris Allen bitch slapping Lambert with his version of "Heartless" which was awesome.

the only thing Adam wasn't better than Kris at:

banging V

that's why he lost

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05-21-2010 , 05:45 PM

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yeah it couldnt have been the super over-the-top extreme showchoir way he butchered most of his songs.

that ultra-squeal thing is a gimmick....and thats really all he focused on in the show. It didnt take America long this year to tell us they're tired of it.

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05-21-2010 , 05:57 PM

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lol Lambert did not lose because he was gay, he lost because his final was pretty mediocre.

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05-21-2010 , 06:04 PM

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Lambert kind of lost because he was gay imo. It's not like voters went "I AINT VOTING FOR THAT ***", but I think it was obvious that Kris won because of his more down home Christian values and humbleness as opposed to Adam's flamboyance.

Personally, I don't think the actual performances on the finale make much of a difference. Most people have their minds made up at that point I would think, especially the power texters.

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05-21-2010 , 06:14 PM

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Was Lambert ever in the bottom three? Seems like he was widely popular throughout the entire series by fans and the judges. His final was mediocre. Thats the thing with this show. It doesn't matter how well you did 6 weeks earlier, it matters how you do each week.

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05-21-2010 , 06:54 PM

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Lambert obv lost because he was gay. Kris didn't belong on the stage with him, and he knew it. He was shocked when he won.

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05-21-2010 , 07:28 PM

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david cook >>>>>>>>>>> Lee

i really can't see how anyone would think Lee is better

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05-22-2010 , 01:34 PM

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so now thehip says he's winning after saying he has a 0% chance like 100000 times

you know nothing about american idol or anything else

well you know a lot about bad posting

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05-22-2010 , 03:04 PM

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so now thehip says he's winning after saying he has a 0% chance like 100000 times

you know nothing about american idol or anything else

well you know a lot about bad posting

look above you, those guys agree that Cook is better than Lee, and Adam lost because he's gay.

Melinda also lost because she looks like Shrek.

If Lee wins, I will admit I was wrong about him having no shot.

I will admit right now, Lee has improved ALOT since the top 24, and he is deserving of winning.

I still stick to my guns that he is an above average singer at best.

Assani, ppl say Lee >>> Cook to disagree with me i'm sure

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05-22-2010 , 09:58 PM

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the point is that you've consistently made outlandish hyperbolic statements that everyone knew were ridiculous but you. at least you're finally coming around to the fact that you aren't very smart

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05-23-2010 , 03:55 AM

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the point is that you've consistently made outlandish hyperbolic statements that everyone knew were ridiculous but you. at least you're finally coming around to the fact that you aren't very smart

speaking in hyperbole is fun

I'm occasionally wrong, but I am right sometimes too

also, when crystal wins, I'll be right again