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Totally agree with this. I've got nothing against Garcia and he definitely has talent, but I hate when they overrate people based on perceived originality when, 9 times out of 10, they're just covering an existing cover that the judges just haven't heard before. David Cook did this all the time a couple years ago, particularly with his super-genious unique original version of Billie Jean, which it turned out was an almost note-for-note cover of a version done by Chris Cornell. For everyone drooling over Garcia's Straight Up, go to YouTube and search for "Straight Up Acoustic" to see how original it really is.

He already has done every song he's sang so far before, they're on youtube.

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02-17-2010 , 06:06 PM

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He already has done every song he's sang so far before, they're on youtube.

I suggest to anyone that hasn't searched Garcia on Youtube to do so. There's a girl he does some of those videos with that's pretty cool as well. There's a Kanye West song that's pretty cool too.

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02-17-2010 , 09:25 PM

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They want people to stand out. They get the same people to sing the same Mary J Blige and Celine Dion songs over and over again. All that proves is that you're a good karaoke singer. Singing John Mayer-type stuff is way harder and gives you a lot better idea of who is a great singer.

uh, what?

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02-17-2010 , 10:03 PM

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uh, what?

That genre is way more difficult to sing, especially without the music right in your ear. The music jumps around a lot. It's not the *most* difficult genre, but it's way harder to sing than the typical karaoke stuff most auditions consist of.

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02-17-2010 , 11:01 PM

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I think after the auditions my favorites include

Andrew Garcia
Katie Stevens
Aaron Kelly

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I still think Garcia/Stevens have to be two of the favorites. Jermaine Sellers is probably the second best guy, I think.

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02-17-2010 , 11:38 PM

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You got it backwards.

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02-17-2010 , 11:44 PM

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You got it backwards.

Try singing both types and come back to me. I've done it, it's not nearly as easy as people think. Frankly, I don't know why people think it is.

I mean, do you really think this is easier to sing than this??

The latter is so much more musically logical. It's really not even close.

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02-17-2010 , 11:46 PM

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"No Surprises" was an "interesting" choice of song for the montage towards the beginning of telling people no.

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02-17-2010 , 11:57 PM

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i thought the kid that went heads up w/ garcia was actually pretty good.

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02-17-2010 , 11:58 PM

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Try singing both types and come back to me. I've done it, it's not nearly as easy as people think. Frankly, I don't know why people think it is.

Pretty weird thing to say. Let me be clear. Which of these two groups is harder to legitimately sing? Group 1: John Mayer, Jason Mraz, Ben Harper... or Group 2: Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Sting. Or give me an example of what you are talking about if my groups aren't what you mean (try using either all of the same sex or a mix of both in each group).

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02-18-2010 , 12:10 AM

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Which of these two groups is harder to legitimately sing? Group 1: John Mayer, Jason Mraz, Ben Harper... or Group 2: Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Sting.

I don't know much about Sting's stuff, but Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye stuff is a lot easier to sing. I'm not saying the guys in Group 1 are better singers, but songs like Isn't She Lovely, How Sweet It Is, etc. aren't difficult for amateurs to sing. They're way easier than Group 1's stuff when you're doing it a cappella.

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02-18-2010 , 12:28 AM

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I'm not sure what you mean "not difficult for amateurs to sing"? Talking about singing it well here.

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02-18-2010 , 12:38 AM

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"No Surprises" was an "interesting" choice of song for the montage towards the beginning of telling people no.

Yeah this was kind of weird, but I marked out a bit hearing Radiohead on AI.

On a similar note, Jeff Buckley's "Hallelujah" is like the most depressing song ever, but for some reason they played it during the end with people celebrating just because it has the word "hallelujah" in it.

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02-18-2010 , 12:55 AM

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Maybe they meant to play Handel's Messiah version

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02-18-2010 , 01:47 AM

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i was with you until this lol post

frankly, there is very little in this world that's harder to sing than Stevie Wonder

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frankly, there is very little in this world that's harder to sing than Stevie Wonder

Eh, it depends on the song. My Cherie Amour, Isn't She Lovely are pretty easy songs to sing along with.

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Stevie's probably not the greatest example, but my point still stands. The modern genre Mayer falls into (not even sure how you would classify it) is a good way to separate the good singers from the great singers. It's a lot harder to distinguish people when they're singing karaoke stuff all the time.

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02-18-2010 , 02:08 AM

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i keep waiting to see Slow Dancing in a Burning Room or Dreaming with a Broken Heart on AI

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02-18-2010 , 02:26 AM

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All this talk about Bowersoxs like she is some kind of hideous troll. She is a decent looking women. Not a supermodel to be sure but hardly ugly.

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02-18-2010 , 02:31 AM

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All this talk about Bowersoxs like she is some kind of hideous troll. She is a decent looking women. Not a supermodel to be sure but hardly ugly.

she's an average looking girl.

on a good note, she's probably the best musician in the top 24

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02-18-2010 , 02:37 AM

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i thought the kid that went heads up w/ garcia was actually pretty good.

Ya, I thought Thaduis crushed "The Man in the Mirror" in his final audition.

Whats the line on whether Bowersox has her teeth whitened before next Tuesday? I'd say its somewhat low but it wouldn't surprise me

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02-18-2010 , 02:38 AM

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Bowersox is interesting. I actually think her nasty teeth etc will endear her to the voters, since it gives her the average single mom vibe.

nasty teeth --- LOL!

she better make a trip to the dentist and have those damn things insta brightened if not then dumber than a box of rocks. i love her.

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i thought the kid that went heads up w/ garcia was actually pretty good.

loved thaddeus!

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All this talk about Bowersoxs like she is some kind of hideous troll. She is a decent looking women. Not a supermodel to be sure but hardly ugly.

i noticed the same thing tonight. face is actually kinda pretty so long as her mouth is closed

that tori kelly chick got completely hosed -- and she was the prettiest one left. no way that hispanic chick should have got the nod over tori or charity vance. just take a listen.

the political correctness and quota filling on this show makes me kinda ill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BviR2yJhK_w

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02-18-2010 , 02:40 AM

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I want to see an opera theme night and hear Randy say "Yo! Dawg! It was a little weird for me at first but Che gelida manina done in this almost jazzy fusion vibe, dude that was hot! You blew it out the box!"