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02-23-2016 , 02:38 PM
I'm not bothered at all by the Kardashian kids being shown. They're part of the story now in a modern context like it or not. I get why people wouldn't like it, but it makes total sense to be in the show in 2016. Excited for tonight.
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02-23-2016 , 02:41 PM
Also between this and his Band of Brothers performance David Schwimmer has to be the go-to actor to bring heart to dweeby dudes who might be bad people. You could probably say this about his Friends character too but I've only seen a handful of friends episodes. Maybe that's been his MO his whole career, nevermind.
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02-24-2016 , 12:37 AM
Very strong episode. The show has found its stride.
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02-24-2016 , 01:27 AM
Fantastic episode. The show is starting to utilize period music in a very effective way, very similar to how Fargo did it.

I think it's funny that OJ is apparently on record complaining that Cuba looks nothing like him. It shouldn't really matter because 1) It's pretty tough to find any current actor who bears a resemblance to OJ and 2) the show really isn't about him as much as it is about the ridiculous characters and personalities surrounding the case. Nailing the looks, voices, and cadences of everyone else was more important than finding a likeness for OJ himself.
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02-24-2016 , 02:21 AM
amazing...Travolta and Vance are killing it.
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02-24-2016 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by thedinergetsby
I'm not bothered at all by the Kardashian kids being shown. They're part of the story now in a modern context like it or not. I get why people wouldn't like it, but it makes total sense to be in the show in 2016. Excited for tonight.
how exactly are they relevant in any way whatsoever?
there is absolutely no reason they need to be included in the show (I don't care really just think this statement is ridiculous).

the book which is fantastic never mentions them once and when I was done I wasn't like, hmmmmm that was ok but I don't feel I got the full story, really needed to know more about how the trial affected the kardashian kids.
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02-24-2016 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
how exactly are they relevant in any way whatsoever?
there is absolutely no reason they need to be included in the show (I don't care really just think this statement is ridiculous).

the book which is fantastic never mentions them once and when I was done I wasn't like, hmmmmm that was ok but I don't feel I got the full story, really needed to know more about how the trial affected the kardashian kids.
They get more screentime than OJ's kids and seeing his kids would be much more interesting.
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02-24-2016 , 07:32 AM
Loved the use of the Above the Law song. Shapiro has to be livid about this show, although his ego might just love being seen regardless of how terribly he comes off in the show.
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02-24-2016 , 09:00 AM
i would be a lot less emotionally invested in this then and still if Ron hadn't been murdered. Like if it was just Nicole.
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02-24-2016 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
amazing...Travolta and Vance are killing it.
Yes, a million times.

Ps- please no more Kardashians.
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02-24-2016 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Salva135
Fantastic episode. The show is starting to utilize period music in a very effective way, very similar to how Fargo did it.

I think it's funny that OJ is apparently on record complaining that Cuba looks nothing like him. It shouldn't really matter because 1) It's pretty tough to find any current actor who bears a resemblance to OJ and 2) the show really isn't about him as much as it is about the ridiculous characters and personalities surrounding the case. Nailing the looks, voices, and cadences of everyone else was more important than finding a likeness for OJ himself.
Yeah I think the two key characters are Cochrane and Clark and both actors are doing amazing jobs.
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02-24-2016 , 02:42 PM
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i would be a lot less emotionally invested in this then and still if Ron hadn't been murdered. Like if it was just Nicole.
Yeah was a weird set of circumstances. The Goldman family was absolutely the face of the victims but the case was always framed by pretty much everyone as OJ killing Nicole. In terms of of being killed Ronald Goldmsn got short shrift even with his family and particular his father being an epic face of the victim in a murder trial.

I thought this episode was excellent. What's funny is I feel like this show might come across as almost unbelievable to someone who was not around when the trial happened. However it really was so culturally all encompassing and crazy in real life the craziness of the show rings completely true for those who lived through it.
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02-24-2016 , 09:34 PM
i liked how kardashians' dad and juice were such good friends in the 1970s that they'd both dance super close up on the same girl in a club, with their faces mere inches from one another, smiling at eachother the whole time. that's a strong friendship.
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02-24-2016 , 10:35 PM
lol, the song in the club scene was made in late 1990.
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02-25-2016 , 02:42 AM
The actor for Cochran is killing it. He comes across as the most intelligent as everyone involved and probably true in real life.
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02-25-2016 , 06:48 AM
Episode 3 and 4 really did it for me. Very into it now. I know pretty much nothing about this case beside "black celebrity guy killed his (ex) wife and got away with it. Something something about a car, glove, chewbacca defense"

So I'm excited to see it unfold.

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The actor for Cochran is killing it.
This times 100! He rocks every scene he is in.
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02-25-2016 , 11:42 AM
I'll go slightly against the grain and say E4 wasn't as strong as the other IMO. Still enjoyable, but I felt like it was a bit too "hit you over the head" compared to the previous ones. It also might be that the Ito and Resnick stuff is of much less interest to me. I'd have preferred more time being spent on the nuances of jury selection.

Here's the Vanity Fair E4 summary/fact check for those interested:

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/...pisode-4-recap
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02-26-2016 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
how exactly are they relevant in any way whatsoever?
there is absolutely no reason they need to be included in the show (I don't care really just think this statement is ridiculous).

the book which is fantastic never mentions them once and when I was done I wasn't like, hmmmmm that was ok but I don't feel I got the full story, really needed to know more about how the trial affected the kardashian kids.
Um they're literally the most famous people in America rn because of a tv show....and this is also a TV show. And the root of their fame is this case.
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02-26-2016 , 01:51 AM
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They get more screentime than OJ's kids and seeing his kids would be much more interesting.
I agree with this too.
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02-26-2016 , 02:18 AM
Props to Sarah Paulson, too. She's really great.
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02-26-2016 , 01:41 PM
Always heard F Lee Bailey was the biggest jerk in the world...but I LOVE the guy that Nathan Lane is playing! I'd hang out with that guy!

I'm loving every performance in this thing. Those actors look so much like Goldman and Ito, it's scary. I'm loving Travolta. Cochran's pep talk to rejuvenate Simpson's swagger was the best scene in the series thus far. Love the way Darden is being played: he sees it all clearly in his head, but he can't SELL IT (to his bosses now, to the jury soon). He can't sell it worth a ****.

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Originally Posted by riverboatking
how exactly are they relevant in any way whatsoever?
there is absolutely no reason they need to be included in the show (I don't care really just think this statement is ridiculous).

the book which is fantastic never mentions them once and when I was done I wasn't like, hmmmmm that was ok but I don't feel I got the full story, really needed to know more about how the trial affected the kardashian kids.
Why would a book written in 1996 mention a bunch of not-yet-famous kids?

Why wouldn't a TV show made in 2015-16 mention some of the most famous people in America who were tangentially involved in the story?

Above all, how can you compare the two?

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i liked how kardashians' dad and juice were such good friends in the 1970s that they'd both dance super close up on the same girl in a club, with their faces mere inches from one another, smiling at eachother the whole time. that's a strong friendship.
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lol, the song in the club scene was made in late 1990.
Think the purpose of that scene was background for the ridiculous claim the defense made that OJ was too arthritic from football to have been physically capable of committing the crime.

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Originally Posted by Rizzeedizzee
I'd have preferred more time being spent on the nuances of jury selection.
Here's a nuance for ya: the first number drawn at jury selection was juror #32.

That was Simpson's jersey number when he played.

You can't make up stuff like that.
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02-26-2016 , 02:01 PM
He'd probably be serving life in prison if not for his great fortune of Mark Fuhrman being involved in the case.
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02-26-2016 , 03:42 PM
How many more new charachters can they introduce that are stars on other shoes. Star studded cast
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02-26-2016 , 05:54 PM
I just finished the 1st 4 episode's, TBH I was not gonna bother with it, BUT glad I did( waiting on Better Call Saul to finish so as I can binge) as Its a great show with good performances all round, Trying to find a Major fault is so hard.

I do remember most of the case, but lost interest when I thought he was going to walk, so missed the end of the trial & can't wait to see what happened to allow the jury to find him
Spoiler:
not guilty.


I wasin't born in the US & still don't really understand the "Hollywood" vibe or celebrity Buzz, infatuation with OJ.
Can anyone provide me with some small Cliffs on OJ & why he was so popular before all this happened? Thanks in advance.

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02-26-2016 , 07:11 PM
OJ was a very famous football player (elected to the NFL Hall of Fame in 1985), a TV personality (sideline reporter for NBC football games), and was in a major car rental company's commercials racing through an airport in a dramatic way to catch a flight he was late for. He got a second wind by being the guy who was constantly getting hurt as collateral damage by Frank Drebin in the Naked Gun movies (a turn that endeared him to a lot of people, because he had mostly come across as the "invincible" type athlete). He was known as being very charismatic, and had a huge amount of fans.

There was absolutely no common knowledge that he was a wife beater, and it was shocking to see him as a suspect in a brutal double murder. Of note is that this was before the internet was any kind of powerful tool.
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