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05-26-2010 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
Taylor said both Russia and the US would have to go after him.

Pardoning Jack means only Russia goes after him.
If they pardon Jack Russia might attack America.
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05-26-2010 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bando
If they pardon Jack Russia might attack America.
Shouldn't the US already be declaring war on Russia? The President of Russia was behind a nuclear threat on America soil!
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05-26-2010 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by splashpot
Shouldn't the US already be declaring war on Russia? The President of Russia was behind a nuclear threat on America soil!
The Russian were behind the assassination attempt, which was plan A. Using the material as a weapon was like Plan C, so it's not 100% their fault but good point
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05-27-2010 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by splashpot
Shouldn't the US already be declaring war on Russia? The President of Russia was behind a nuclear threat on America soil!
Couldnt Russia declare war on the US for Jack killing Russian govt officials on US soil?
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05-27-2010 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by splashpot
Shouldn't the US already be declaring war on Russia? The President of Russia was behind a nuclear threat on America soil!
I definitely had this problem. Whenever Logan was like "the peace process won't be the only casualty of this mess" implying that Taylor's presidency was the crucial issue I was always like uhhh what about having to declare war on Russia?
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05-27-2010 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Draidin
Couldnt Russia declare war on the US for Jack killing Russian govt officials on US soil?
They put a spy into the biggest US anti-terrorism agency; assassinated the President of the IRK, and sanctioned the use of nuclear material in Manhattan. I'd say they're about even.
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05-27-2010 , 07:46 PM
i didnt understand why logan killed pilar.

i thought the episode was super good for about 3/4s. the ending was kinda lame how the president makes a last minute change of mind.
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05-27-2010 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
i didnt understand why logan killed pilar.

i thought the episode was super good for about 3/4s. the ending was kinda lame how the president makes a last minute change of mind.
Logan lost it/didn't want Jack to be found alive

I felt she never ever had her mind 100% on the coverup and Jack's message pushed her where she truly wanted to go.

My problem with the peace deal is A)We never had a real clear view of what it was so we can't think if it's good or not. B)During the finale 2 of the 3 major signers hate the deal, so they'll never truly follow it. and C)Taylor' blackmail threat was so bizarre. How can you legit blame the IRK for the terrorists, they killed the leader of the IRK so they're not together.
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05-28-2010 , 01:00 AM
Just watched in the entire season in 4 days, awesome season.

The last 8 episodes or so are just pure ****ing win

I'm going to miss Tits McGee:



Batjack was great:



Also during one of the earlier episodes when Jack was leading a raid with CTU he gave out assignments to Agent Kane & Agent Lynch

Finally I can't wait for the movie and the reveal of the new supervillian in Jack's life:

Spoiler:
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05-28-2010 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bando
How can you legit blame the IRK for the terrorists, they killed the leader of the IRK so they're not together.
Well they can blame the conspirators within the IRK government, which would be enough of a reason to go to war for if presented to the media properly.
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05-28-2010 , 02:28 PM
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Buy Jack's pants ($700), glasses ($500), Chloe's ID Badge ($350) and other stuff.
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05-31-2010 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bando
For anyone who's interested...

http://stores.ebay.com/VIP-AUCTIONS__W0QQ_fsubZ6

Buy Jack's pants ($700), glasses ($500), Chloe's ID Badge ($350) and other stuff.
Thanx for this cool link.

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05-31-2010 , 08:35 PM
Dammit! NO 24 to watch tonight!

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05-31-2010 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Draidin
Dammit! NO 24 to watch tonight!

Just start rewatching old seasons.

I'm halfway through season 2 and its so awesome if you just skip every scene with elisha cuthbert
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05-31-2010 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bando
My problem with the peace deal is A)We never had a real clear view of what it was so we can't think if it's good or not. B)During the finale 2 of the 3 major signers hate the deal, so they'll never truly follow it. and C)Taylor' blackmail threat was so bizarre. How can you legit blame the IRK for the terrorists, they killed the leader of the IRK so they're not together.
A) The peace deal is a MacGuffin, so it doesn't matter what it actually says.

B) Completely agree. Russia assassinated the leader of one of the signers of the treaty. Why would President Taylor think that Russia had any interest in following the treaty?

C) Moreover, Dalia Hassan could leak her info about Russia being behind the terrorists who killed Omar Hassan. There's basically no way President Taylor's threat could be taken seriously.
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05-31-2010 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by vixticator
I agree with what somebody else said earlier about the final episodes of 24 always being a bit of a letdown relative to those leading right up to it...
not season 1
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05-31-2010 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
A) The peace deal is a MacGuffin, so it doesn't matter what it actually says.
I agree that's it a MacGuffin in some sense, but it's not 100% interchangable. You can't go in the script and replace "peace deal" with "trade deal" and have it make sense.

There was too much mentioned about peace, peace, peace in the Middle East in generations to not give some kind of hint. Just say the entire Mid East had their eyes on the deal and would favor a similar deal if the IRK-US deal worked.
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05-31-2010 , 11:48 PM
I was really disappointed with this as a series finale. As a season finale, it would have been fine, but to end the series, I think they should have had something more shocking in there. Jack assassinating President Taylor, Jack torturing President Taylor, Jack killing Aaron Pierce to get to Taylor or Logan, Jack killing Chloe for trying to interfere with his plans, Jack assassinating Subarov and single-handedly starting World War III (final scene is Moscow/NYC enveloped in mushroom clouds), Chloe working for the Russians and giving them Jack, etc. In my view, the way everything worked out was way too vanilla.
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06-01-2010 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Daer
Just start rewatching old seasons.

I'm halfway through season 2 and its so awesome if you just skip every scene with elisha cuthbert
Not a bad idea. Actually, I have both season 1 & 2 on DVD.
And I missed watching an entire season some where along the way...
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06-02-2010 , 04:20 AM
I had given up on the series around episode 10 and watched all the rest in one go today. Very average season. Better than last season for sure but still below the standards 24 had set in its early days.

"Events occur in real time". Really? Are you still going on about this? Everything is just one commercial break away from everything. From CTU to the Hospital to the President's headquarters to the (every) abandoned warehouse to the perimeter chloe had just set up in no time, EVERYTHING is just 3 minutes away from everything else. Jack get's shot and stabbed two times in the same day but it's no big deal since he still gets to make sexy time in between and kill 200 people.

President Hasan get's murdered but that's ok since his wife can take over and play president cause that's how the Islamic Republic of Kamistan rolls. No offence to any Kamistanees reading.

The evil Russian who murdered his son early in the season gets a hearing infront of a judge on the next morning?! That was fast.

So after the charismatic president Hasan dies the US president has problems convincing Russia to sign the deal that they were supposed to sign the next morning. Ok great let's call the convicted ex president to help us with the situation since the Russians love him. And oh if he needs to do illegal **** like torture and kill anyone in his way don't hesitate to give him permision. For the rest of the season!!!1

Also not to forget the brilliant Dana Walsh story. From start to finish didn't make any sense at all. First it was the facinating boyfriend story which led nowhere then she turned out to be a mole of the Kamistanees like the 936326432 moles we've seen before on the show, but finally ends up being a Russian mole who was trained to withstand torture and play with guns (wasnt she a computer geek on the start of the show setting up P.K.R.F.D. protocols doing C.L.P.T.O. encryptions and breaking T.F.S.R. firewalls? Where did she learn all that?). 24 had already overdone it anyway with people turning into moles just by giving the evil stare in one scene just because it suits the storyline to advance. I will not miss watching this every freasking scene. Every single time!!1 We get it you are super evil. Now look normal just in case your coworkers see you.




So Jack is now a fugitive. Well maybe it would be an ok ending if we hadn't seen the same exact thing before. "Hey Jack this country owes you. Now go hide from the Russians (Chinese)." ****ty ending but w/e. Kind of hard to have a great ending after killing all of the show's icons except jack. I was secretly hoping Tony was gonna come save the day in the last scene but that didn't work out. Also killing David Palmer was the biggest mistake 24 made. Wasted so much potential of one of the best characters just to have a lame wow moment in season 4 (or 5 I don't remember).

Anyway RIP 24. I'm hoping for a spin-off series 25 years into the future with Jack's daughter saving the world from Islamic/Russian robots.
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06-02-2010 , 10:28 AM
I do not approve of the above post.
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06-02-2010 , 10:54 AM
I'm pretty sure that's a huge rant post, but the fact you started it by having a problem with them throwing in "Events occur in real time" for the series(!) finale pretty much seals it that you are a the biggest nit in this thread.

Have they even used it for the past couple seasons? I never saw it this season besides the finale.
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06-02-2010 , 11:35 AM
I bet you're a blast to hang out with
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06-02-2010 , 03:06 PM
congrats hemstock, you are the king of the nitpickers!

@yowhatsup. No, they havent used it since season 1 or 2? or 3? IDK

Last edited by relderretep; 06-02-2010 at 03:07 PM. Reason: 24.wikia.com says they used it in Redemption too
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06-02-2010 , 08:00 PM
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Also killing David Palmer was the biggest mistake 24 made. Wasted so much potential of one of the best characters just to have a lame wow moment in season 4 (or 5 I don't remember).
It was season 5. How do you NOT KNOW THAT!?!?!?!

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