24: Jack Bauer in New York - Page 47 - OOTV -- Two Plus Two Poker Forums

Two Plus Two Forums 2+2 Communities Other Other Topics OOTV

24: Jack Bauer in New York

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 47 of 71

First

27 37 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 57 67

Last

Page 47 of 71

First

27 37 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 57 67

Last

04-26-2010 , 11:21 PM

#1151

Semtex

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10,147

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShortyTheFish

Is it just me or does Jack ALWAYS get what he wants just by yelling?

I'm pretty sure by now everyone is aware there is the guaranteed threat of force behind that yelling

Quote

04-27-2010 , 12:03 AM

#1152

DarkMysticx

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,636

so this was such a boring episode, imo.

Quote

04-27-2010 , 12:34 AM

#1153

cres

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 10,334

Logan at his best Nixonian was fantastic tonight.

Quote

04-27-2010 , 01:55 AM

#1154

baumer

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,061

Ya, the political stuff is so much better with Logan in the mix. I actually didn't mind the slow Jack Bauer stuff with the political **** heating up. Only a handful of episodes left!

Quote

04-27-2010 , 02:49 AM

#1155

Gianakki

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 360

weak ep..expected more

Quote

04-27-2010 , 04:49 AM

#1156

vixticator

clutch

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 117,339

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gianakki

weak ep..expected more

agree

Quote

04-27-2010 , 09:10 AM

#1157

kevin21

SE Spokesman

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 62,020

Yeah not a great episode.

Wonder if the dude she killed @ CTU will be found

Quote

04-27-2010 , 09:48 AM

#1158

gusmahler

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 29,443

In the credits, I saw the name DB Sweeney, and immediately thought, "OMG, isn't that Wayne Palmer?" Nope. DB Woodside was Wayne Palmer. DB Sweeney is the contractor guy. LOL

Quote

04-27-2010 , 12:47 PM

#1159

Jack Bando

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,587

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin21

Yeah not a great episode.

Wonder if the dude she killed @ CTU will be found

Dude's gonna stink up the joint eventually

Quote:

Originally Posted by gusmahler

In the credits, I saw the name DB Sweeney, and immediately thought, "OMG, isn't that Wayne Palmer?" Nope. DB Woodside was Wayne Palmer. DB Sweeney is the contractor guy. LOL

We did get Michael Madsen though

Quote

04-27-2010 , 01:13 PM

#1160

mug3n

veteran

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,746

What season was the firearms guy from? Or did he even show up before?

Quote

04-27-2010 , 01:18 PM

#1161

relderretep

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 3,540

Quote:

Originally Posted by mug3n

What season was the firearms guy from? Or did he even show up before?

first appearance

http://24.wikia.com/wiki/Jim_Ricker

There's probably a guy in every larger city in the US that owes Jack his life.

Quote

04-27-2010 , 01:50 PM

#1162

augie_

missed out on bitcoin

Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 21,627

michael madsen is my 4th favorite actor of all time

Quote

04-27-2010 , 02:29 PM

#1163

JabrielP

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,603

Did anyone else enjoy Dana being waterboarded as much as I did?

Quote

04-27-2010 , 04:54 PM

#1164

reno expat

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 10,449

the last episode did a lot of damage to the president for me. she bounced back and forth between kanin and logan and agreed with whomever she talked to last. horrendous

Quote

04-27-2010 , 06:30 PM

#1165

HappyPixel

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,586

Quote:

Originally Posted by JabrielP

Did anyone else enjoy Dana being waterboarded as much as I did?

yes

Quote

04-27-2010 , 08:38 PM

#1166

ninconvert

grinder

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 436

I realise 24 isn't known for it's plausible plot lines but this one was especially mental:

First Chole behaves totally opposite to her character arc. She has always taken Jack's side and risked her career going behind the back of CTU, now, as soon as it's useful for the plot, she starts lying and tricking him
Jack "knew" chole would behave like this, even going so far as to predict she would enlist cole to trap Jack. How Jack "knew" chole would act like this is highly dubious
Despite Chole's actions Jack "knows Cole well enough" to know that he'll risk his career and life lying to CTU and fighting on Jack's behalf against he president of the united states

Furthermore:

Why would Chole send Jack into a trap with a bunch of CTU agents but tell him he's going to the wareabouts of this private security firm. Jack could easily end up shooting up a bunch of people not realising who they were. Chole is depicted as doing this for Jack's own good, but the logical thing would be to just say "Sorry Jack I won't tell you." and leave it at that. The whole trap is mental.
The constant shocked expressions when PRIVATE security was mentioned. As if government agents just must be virtuous and amazing, but PRIVATE agents must be synonymous for torture. I'm pretty sure non-government officials are also subject to the laws of the land.
The private security room has a "torture room" all setup, hahaha
The president breaks character to immediately risk everything just cause Logan makes some stupid speech.
Constant ****ed up understanding of politics. Apparently peace can be achieved through signing a piece of paper, even if millions of people in the country hate America and are happy to use nukes against them.
"Russia" casually being "Grrrrr... this peace is annoying, but I guess we'll have to let peace prevail because logan knows something about our plot... dammit... nuking manhatten would have been best but oh well... peace it is." WTF WTF WTF

Quote

04-27-2010 , 08:51 PM

#1167

4thstreetpete

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,270

I'm thinking Chloe and Jack were in on the whole thing together. It was a complete setup for Jack to talk to Freddy.

Quote

04-27-2010 , 10:20 PM

#1168

34TheTruth34

Mark's Dirty Sanchez

Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,416

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninconvert

Despite Chole's actions Jack "knows Cole well enough" to know that he'll risk his career and life lying to CTU and fighting on Jack's behalf against he president of the united states

And is confident enough in his read to just hand Cole a gun before Cole has even made up his mind

Quote

04-27-2010 , 11:02 PM

#1169

Jack Bando

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,587

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninconvert

Furthermore:

The constant shocked expressions when PRIVATE security was mentioned. As if government agents just must be virtuous and amazing, but PRIVATE agents must be synonymous for torture. I'm pretty sure non-government officials are also subject to the laws of the land.

It's private security hired by Logan, the guy who had a former president killed and helped terrorist acquire chemical weapons for oil. That and the head dude has an evil mustache
Constant ****ed up understanding of politics. Apparently peace can be achieved through signing a piece of paper, even if millions of people in the country hate America and are happy to use nukes against them.

It'd help if they explain the peace deal even a little, but we can't use real Middle East country names so that's right out. But if the government of the IRK was allied with USA, it'd be better then if they were an enemy.
"Russia" casually being "Grrrrr... this peace is annoying, but I guess we'll have to let peace prevail because logan knows something about our plot... dammit... nuking manhatten would have been best but oh well... peace it is." WTF WTF WTF

Their plan A was for Hassan to die in the limo and the brother goes back to the IRK as new leader with nukes. Plan B was apparently to trade the nukes for Hassan to kill him, ending the peace deal. Nuking Manhattan doesn't seem to have been a goal

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4thstreetpete

I'm thinking Chloe and Jack were in on the whole thing together. It was a complete setup for Jack to talk to Freddy.

Telling him would have made more sense, or sending Cole to Jack and both go to Dana.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 34TheTruth34

And is confident enough in his read to just hand Cole a gun before Cole has even made up his mind

He had a read, he stuck with it. It's what Jack does.

Quote

04-28-2010 , 09:49 AM

#1170

gusmahler

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 29,443

Quote:

Originally Posted by reno expat

the last episode did a lot of damage to the president for me. she bounced back and forth between kanin and logan and agreed with whomever she talked to last. horrendous

Yeah. Never liked Taylor before and now I like her even less.

I suppose she could be saved. Logan was terrible as a waffling, indecisive President. He was gold after his turn.

Quote

04-28-2010 , 09:51 AM

#1171

gusmahler

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 29,443

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Bando

He had a read, he stuck with it. It's what Jack does.

He'd be a sick poker player. A broke one, but sick nonetheless.

Quote

04-28-2010 , 11:33 AM

#1172

Jack Bando

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,587

Quote:

Originally Posted by gusmahler

Yeah. Never liked Taylor before and now I like her even less.

I suppose she could be saved. Logan was terrible as a waffling, indecisive President. He was gold after his turn.

I never liked the turn since it never seemed like his crappy goodness was an act. One minute he can't make a decision then he's a key player in a secret cabal giving nerve gas to terrorists so they can double cross them so they can get the oil in Asia?

Quote

04-28-2010 , 12:03 PM

#1173

unbluffable

adept

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,019

I think that Dana turned out to be a wonderful character, at least it seems like in the next episode the threesome of Jack, Freddy and the blondie running around Manhattan and shooting fools up will make for a really good time.

Also, i think that this is the best season, even better than 2.

Quote

04-28-2010 , 02:00 PM

#1174

gusmahler

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 29,443

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Bando

If you imagine that his waffling was an act from the start, it makes his waffling phase much more palatable.

Quote

04-28-2010 , 05:05 PM

#1175

Jack Bando

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,587

Quote:

Originally Posted by gusmahler

If you imagine that his waffling was an act from the start, it makes his waffling phase much more palatable.

But then you have to imagine that his waffling in day 4 was all a plan that took 18 months to unfold and step 1 in the plan is get unexpectedly made president by a terrorist attack on Air Force 1.

Quote

Page 47 of 71

First

27 37 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 57 67

Last

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 47 of 71

First

27 37 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 57 67

Last