1-2-5 (compulsory straddle) PLO

I'm in SB with AAK3, and no suits, with about £475

2 callers, button makes it £20, I call in SB. BB calls, straddler makes it 100 more, UTG dwells and throws it all in, around 450, probably more then the pot, but before the dealer can do anything, button reshoves for £750, action to me?

BB may fold, but he's already got it all in several times pf, and is a gambly old asian guy, straddle or UTG are never folding and have between 600 and 700 each, the table has already had several 4 way all ins preflop.

I'm only about £100 up on the session so far.

If you were up more I'd probably gamble with the aces. But only up 100! easy fold

Alex, what kind of ranges do you put each player on, in particular straddler (3 bettor) and button (4 bettor)? I mean if people have been all in many times in a short period of time, then go all in. Ez decision.

How big is your roll? This is clearly +EV in a vacuum, but, since you're asking, the decision might be closer.

id fold having no suits

my alter ego won't accept if i fold aces pre. i wouldn't be able to sleep well thinking i folded aces pre.

You guys saying he should fold you serious? How do you fold a +EV play?

Most times somebody else is holding the other 2 aces......

esp at the table where hero had already seen several 4way all ins

You have less than 100bb, there is no folding aces.

The question is whether it's actually a +EV play and with an extremely high likelihood of there being another player with aces it can't be +EV. The hand is so uncoordinated, think if the hands were all flipped face up without going all in (and knowing someone else has AA) what flops are going to be good for you. You're probably around 8% to win this one. there's 16 other cards out there that are all working against your one pair and practically zero draws, there's nearly a 0% chance that one pair is going to be good by the river and the odds of the board even pairing to beat someone else's (at minimum ) 2 pair is only 49%. AA looks good but loses here almost every time.

edit:

3s Kc Ad Ah 16872 8.38
Js Kd Kh Qh 37868 18.80
Qc Jc Qd Jd 29770 14.78
As Qs Ts Ac 13484 6.70
Td 9d Jh Th 41511 20.61

Vektor, with the player types described, there is no way to put one of them on aces. Further, it is wrong to put them all on premiums. Where is the KJ45 type of hand that players at this stake Will play for all their money. There is no way you can construct realistic ranges where AAK4r will have less than breakeven equity 4 ways or 5 ways vs these players.

They are giving up EV for a reduction in variance.

If someone said I'll flip your for your networth, 50.01% of the time you win and 49.09% of the time I win. Would you fold a +EV play?

I'm going absolutely nowhere.

This was a concern here, straddler is chasing, has been felted twice, but has generally made a big raise on his straddle, relatively unknown but has tried to make several hero calls on rivers and always lost. No idea if he's tilting or just spewey.

Losing here is of very little consequence to me although I'm bankroll (re)building at the moment, but it would be nice to win.

I'm not results orientated on this hand at all, but this is what made me dwell for a while before I shipped here. I didnt like not having any form of redraw at all, and thought that theres a chance the button (who seemed to be an okish player) would have a hand here.

As played I shipped, we had a 4 way all in, button had my exact hand of AAK3 but with a suit, and made the flush, board paired the river but flush was good for the lot.

Like I say, I'm not that bothered how it ended up, but my decision pivots around the point where if I fold I'm only losing 20, but calling to win around 1800 in a very thin spot.

This ^ end of thread

of course i would say no but its 100 bb and simply has to get it in unless he is playing well above his bankroll which means A he should not be playing and and B see answer to A.

00.90% rake? jeeez

"Like I say, I'm not that bothered how it ended up, but my decision pivots around the point where if I fold I'm only losing 20, but calling to win around 1800 in a very thin spot."

Terrible logic. You aren't dealt unlimited amounts of aces.

what Roy said.
even if he gets it in 5 ways against garbage:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

101,336 trials (Randomized)

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
40%	19.56%	18,749	2,187
40%	19.52%	18,667	2,279
40%	19.56%	18,726	2,253
40%	19.77%	18,928	2,270
AsAhKc3d	21.58%	21,163	1,451

If you only have a 1-2 more BIs in your pocket, folding this high variance spot might be +EV for the session, even if it's -EV for the hand.
In a vacuum it's obv a +EV call.

(bold mine)
you probably dont want to bust out of this game with no more buyins from taking this 2% edge when someone will gladly pay you off when you have a 100% edge with the nuts on the river with some garbage bottom two

I'm probably folding this and not thinking anything of it.

1.58% more than your fair 20% share in a pot 5x your stack size is the equivalent of being a 53.95% favorite HU.

That's not that small by PLO standards. Not big but it's really not that small.

cant stop looking at ur avatar seaking haha amazing