About $3500 deep at the Wynn. Villain is a white guy looks like a weasel wearing a tank top and bright blue high tops. Based on appearance and a few hands he butchered far from a pro.

Single raised pot. Flop 357r I have 368A double suited and one backdoor fed to the A (I defended BB 3 way). He bets out 60 into 80, button folds, and I raise pot. Probably a bit ambitious but I got a little something going on, it’s not really a great spot to peel oop but I can’t fold, and most of all I’d had a few too many and wanted to “stick it to this weasel” because he smelled really bad and was acting super obnoxious.

Turn is a 3 putting out backdoor fd not mine and I forget how much was in pot but I bet 420, which I think might be too large if anything but if I’m going to bet I think is ok.

River is another 3 giving me the quadzilla and I check looking to check raise.

I’ll post results after I think they’re really satisfying not for strat reasons but because of how the “weasel” acted after the hand.

Pre is fine. Flop is good, esp if we think he is cbetting overpairs too much.

Turn is player dependent. At this point I wish you had told me more about his playing tendencies rather than his attire. Being dressed like a weasel is not a mistake than can be easily exploited in PLO terms. Therefore turn can go 7 different routes depending on player. Your action seems profitable, but since you cannot get stacks in, even with pot/pot, I would mainly be betting pot here when I want to go big.

River, no way. No. What bluffs do you expect him to have? The one who has a large number of bluffs in his range is you. If you check he will show down his overpair most of the time. You got the perfect river card that will get called often by sticky players in this spot. Checking is way inferior to potting.

The rest of the hand is whatever. Would be nice to know who raised first, who called,
V's position relative to raise, etc.

I'm fine with flop and turn is OK considering he didn't re-raise you on the flop. However, you must, absolutely must, bet the river.

Weasel still up 20K the last time he stick it in you.

I prefer xc to xr flop and betting river as played.

Agreed.

There should be 600 in the pot on the turn. Villain peels the flop, so he doesn't have many overpairs, although the over full would make a lot of sense, and should bet for value. 64 probably won't pay you anyway.


I don't care for the flop semi bluff raise. You are out of position, so what is the plan if you miss the turn, as you will the vast majority of the time? This isn't a board texture where villain will c-bet very much.

The best line on the flop is leading.

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Villain raised first, btn called, I defended bb.

With regards to betting river being a must, to call turn he can basically have 6789 with fd hands, QQ+ overpairs probably with straight draw and fd, and the overfull, and except for QQ shouldn’t he bet all of those? He might not be expected to call off a c/r with any of those though so fair enough, but I get a bluff out of the busted draw hands usually I think.

Yes I wasn’t sure of the exact amount but 600 seems roughly right. I think I went too big and might prefer a check to betting given if I’m ahead he should be drawing nearly dead and vice versa if I’m behind.

Plan was to barrel off most textures if I missed, a 6 or 7 I might shut down on but I think I barrel off every other runout including the bdfd that isn’t mine coming in.

If he raised first, he could easily have an over-pair and will/should call the river, especially after the way you played the hand. If he has AA/KK, he might raise. It's rare that someone pure bluffs a three-card board in Omaha -- at least the people I play against. And, he might check a hand like TT/JJ/QQ, which he is more likely to call with.

I would be very surprised if he raised with AA or KK, but probably also doesn’t bet-call with them and might bet small, and also 88-QQ with combo draw he could definitely have and check with which do heavily favor a bet rather than c/r. However the only way to make more money if he has a busted draw without pair in hand is to check, and also I can definitely see or even expect a buffoon such as this guy seemed to be to bet/call with an overfull, which is exactly what happened since he had 77 for sevens-full and tanked while whining about how “they always fk me with the motherfkn backdoor quads” and then I did a “Jedi-mind trick” telepathically shouting “Oh crap I think he might call” and he got a gleam in his gross weasel face and tossed out a chip into the center confidently announcing “call”

And this is by far the favorite hand of poker I’ve ever played, but not just because of winning a bunch of money from an obnoxious moron but rather because of what happened after the weasel called my c/r which I don’t have time to write about now but will later today because it’s a hilarious story.

LOL. I was going to mention 77, but it was so unlikely that he would flat the raise on the flop and flat the turn. What was he thinking? He was definitely calling a bet on the river and most likely raising.

So after the weasel called, I usually never ever would even consider slowrolling but he was just so disgusting acting and looking I said, “Good call, sir, missed my straight draw” and he triumphantly flipped up his sevens full.

“I think that’s good, lemme just check I don’t have a 3 in my hand” I said and his face fell.

I squeezed all 4 slowly and flipped up the 6, then the 8, then the A, then like Antonio Estfandari in the WPT he won with AA, raised the 3 as high as I could above my head so he couldn’t see and then spiked it down on the table face up.

He got furious. “You fkn Euro-fggot you’re a classless piece of sht! This sht is so fkn rigged I’m never playing here again!” He shouted at the top of his lungs.

Then his face fell again and he looked panicked and stopped talking.

“Didja sht yourself again, Jimmy?” asked this old gent that seemed to be a reg.

He burst into full on tears and walked away fast out of the poker room not bothering to rack up the remaining few hundo in chips he had left and the odor and huge bulge in the back of his mesh shorts confirmed that this moron scumbag weasel I owned had in fact shat himself.

What a heart-warming, charming anecdote.

Why, I must get myself over to the Wynn Poker Room to participate in these cheerful activities myself, post-haste.

Not.

"Villain has air I'm going to let him hang himself."

At least, that is usually what I'm thinking when I call down with the nut full.

Given how the hand played out, I would say he owned you til you 1 outed him. How do you think the hand plays out on every other river?

Also he's right, pretty classless.

I would think most of the boats, including 77, would play this way.

Well in my opinion the ownages of the weasel by me was in choosing to c/r river when I doubt he would have raised getting stacks in, the false telepathic message to get him to call, and the brutal slow roll. And of course, his public humiliation as he was cussing me out.

so you misplay the hand, 1 outer your opp, slowroll him & make him feel horrible and then come here to brag about it? classy.

Needed to put more description of weaselly behavior, might've received more sympathy then.

You're the shitbag, by the way.

He smelled absolutely horrible even though he was wearing a ton of strong cologne, looked and dressed more like a weasel than almost literally any person I’ve ever seen, kept using the term “GTO”, fist pumped and cackled laughing against a fish after making from what with his body language and 5 minute agonized monologue was a crying call that turned out successful, and just generally seemed tweaked out on methamphetamine and wouldn’t shut up and stop babbling and needling people.

This is literally the first time I’ve ever slowrolled anyone in my life and he was the one using profanity and shouting and calling names and making cheating accusations, not me

I don’t think I necessarily misplayed the hand and though I did 1-outer the river, I had 9.5 outs on flop and he would have folded River to my third barrel if board doesn’t pair based on the previously mentioned cry call with the second nut straight on unpaired rainbow board against a bluffy fish earlier in the night.

It turns out I guess villain wasn’t named Jimmy but was in fact @joeingram1 poker podcaster ChicagoJoey who I’ve actually watched a number of podcasts of but didn’t recognize.

I was really drunk and posted a lot of mean spirited stuff about Joe in this thread the other night that have been rightfully deleted and I apologize for those.