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Weird preflop spot with with AAxx Weird preflop spot with with AAxx

07-17-2014 , 07:47 PM
Not sure which part isn't true. I just ran the report myself and AA preflop with 4 bets accounts for 15% of my profits. Not sure what other actions I am really comparing it to, but the point is that it should be a very large chunk of your profits. And looking for folds online with AA is -EV.

Saying that... I ran into a scenario a few weeks ago and remembered this thread and my comment. But it was live and about 250BB deep with a mississippi straddle at 5/10/25. I literally sprinted to my chair to not miss my hand, lol. But an aggro reg opened UTG to $250 over some limpers. And some New York rando repotted him to $800 from the hijack. I had been playing with the two for a while and knew 100% of his range here was AA. He had about $7k in front of him and it's just so out of the ordinary for live players to three bet those stack sizes without AA. And I looked down at AA26 no suits, thinking that I didn't want to see AA.

I actually think that was a fold and talked to about 10 PLO regs who all are split on the hand. It's not a niche calculation when players have over 250BB deep, given the action and positions. Live you make your money playing post flop. Online you make money by not giving anything up, ever.
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07-17-2014 , 08:07 PM
I like to think I make my money playing well on all streets in all games but then again I just had a -15bi losing session so who knows
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07-18-2014 , 06:52 AM
easy shove

if you were deeper we can make a case for folding if you are shot taking and really don't want the variance given its likely to go multiway all in since you are only in this pot for 3bb but with 100bb what else do you want from poker? When you bink thats a quick 300bb
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07-18-2014 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBabyGrand
Not sure which part isn't true. I just ran the report myself and AA preflop with 4 bets accounts for 15% of my profits. Not sure what other actions I am really comparing it to, but the point is that it should be a very large chunk of your profits. And looking for folds online with AA is -EV.

Saying that... I ran into a scenario a few weeks ago and remembered this thread and my comment. But it was live and about 250BB deep with a mississippi straddle at 5/10/25. I literally sprinted to my chair to not miss my hand, lol. But an aggro reg opened UTG to $250 over some limpers. And some New York rando repotted him to $800 from the hijack. I had been playing with the two for a while and knew 100% of his range here was AA. He had about $7k in front of him and it's just so out of the ordinary for live players to three bet those stack sizes without AA. And I looked down at AA26 no suits, thinking that I didn't want to see AA.

I actually think that was a fold and talked to about 10 PLO regs who all are split on the hand. It's not a niche calculation when players have over 250BB deep, given the action and positions. Live you make your money playing post flop. Online you make money by not giving anything up, ever.
don't leave us hangin with results here
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07-18-2014 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
don't leave us hangin with results here
Haha. I felt like it was obvious and I didn't want to whine. I potted and UTG repotted with a strong KK. Other guy had AA. We ran twice. They chopped. After I had potted, the guy that originally potted goes, "oh ****." That's how obvious that he and I both had AA was.

I just think if I was dealt that situation a million times, I don't think I am coming out ++. I would actually probably flat or fold next time. If I flat the $800, I still had like 5-6k back and I was in position, without telegraphing an equity opportunity for the capable UTG raiser. It would seem like a real strong run down, so I could rep a ton of boards, as well as go with AA on others.

What do you think?

Last edited by TheBabyGrand; 07-18-2014 at 01:51 PM. Reason: *ton
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07-26-2014 , 06:40 AM
first get a hand converter

second raise the pot
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07-27-2014 , 10:45 AM
coinflip against another hand like 89tj double suited
and if 2 callers than you will have less than 40% equity

fold pre
aaxx in plo comes once in 39 hands only and unlike nlhe 221:1

you should even be wary of raising this hand let alone calling this big bet
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07-29-2014 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by hans122
who is twin...?(legend material?)
Guy played highstakes with Ilari and such back then. About a year ago I sometimes played him at 50c/1$ deep, and now I saw him at 10/20 again a few days ago.


Here is a hand where twin had a wired spot with AAxx preflop:

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.20 Ante - 6 players - View hand 2362534
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $123.24
Hero (BTN): $752.16
SB: $833.34
BB: $244.51
UTG: $889.06
MP: $233.86

Pre Flop: ($2.70) Hero is BTN with T 8 7 J





UTG raises to $4.70, 1 fold, CO calls $4.70, Hero raises to $21.50





2 folds, UTG raises to $38.30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $55.10





UTG raises to $71.90





Hero calls $16.80


Flop: ($151.20) T 9 K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $104, UTG raises to $460.40




Hero raises to $680.06 all in, UTG calls $219.66





Turn: ($1511.32) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)





River: ($1511.32) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)´






Spoiler:
*** SHOW DOWN ***
twin-caracas: shows [As 3h Ks Ah] (a pair of Aces)
Hero: shows [Th 8h 7d Jd] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
Hero collected $1508.52 from pot


Last edited by TooRareToDie; 07-29-2014 at 09:35 AM.
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07-29-2014 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoopman20
Why the hell do people always post questions trying to find out when folding AAxx preflop might be good? Posting a question and improving virtually any other aspect of PLO would probably make you more money. If you never turn down the chance to get AAxx in pre for the rest of your life the change in your win rate will be next to nothing.
So why do you get it all in pre?
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07-30-2014 , 09:20 AM
raise it the pot limit kid
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08-24-2014 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dankness3
I think improperly assumed that the 4bettor was a reg and would generally have AAxx and that I would be getting my money in multi way with pretty bad equity. Having only 18 dollars invested I just folded. Surprised no one else like a fold
so you're as bad at plo as you are at nl ?
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08-25-2014 , 01:23 AM
no your just fckn idiot
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08-26-2014 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Abe Schmuckfeld
so you're as bad at plo as you are at nl ?
/thread
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08-26-2014 , 06:19 PM
dankness wtf is this you play plo500z and you're confused about what you're gonna do with AAxx 100bb deep come one man. Whatever you do this can be a MARGINALLY bad GII and it can be an atrocious fold.
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