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Turning bottom boat and facing all-in repot Turning bottom boat and facing all-in repot

04-29-2021 , 12:04 AM
1/2/4 PLO in an online home game, playing pretty big. Hero has been running quite well and is biggest stack.

V1 is not as well known to us, haven't seen him really get out of hand.

V2 is known as a very skilled player, but also gets quite bluffy and aggressive if he thinks you're weak.

Hero has A573 with 3 hearts including Ah. UTG folds, hero calls 4. V1 to hero's direct left calls 4, couple folds, V2 pots to 23 from the cutoff.

Button, BB, straddle all call, hero calls, V1 calls.

Flop (139) 33T rainbow

Checks around. Was planning to call cbet from V2, but he checked behind.

Turn (139) 5d, puts 2 diamonds out there, gives hero 3s full of 5s.

Checks to hero. Hero bets pot. V1 raises all in for 368 more. Folds back around to hero. Decision?
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04-29-2021 , 12:22 AM
fold pre, bet less on the turn
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04-29-2021 , 09:04 AM
Lead flop next time (half pot-3/4 pot). You'll fold out most overpairs, 3xxx will likely raise IP, 1010xx will likely flat, you'll have a better idea what you're up against. I will say, I don't think 1010XX rejams there that often (more likely to raise smaller or flat IMO). I definitely don't think he has 10 3 XX, that hand is almost surely betting flop. I even think 1010XX is betting flop IP bc his 3 betting range IP is a little wider so most 3xxx will put him on overpairs. It's a call IMO, esp with turned draws coming in.
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04-29-2021 , 11:06 AM
Preflop I just can't see how that hand is going to be profitable. I haven't had my morning coffee and my brain isn't in poker mode yet, but I'm thinking being UTG+1 I would need to be like AT98 triple suited as the bottom of my range to play. It feels nitty, but that is my story and I'm sticking with it.

As played, post flop I agree with the other posters about getting in there and doing the betting.
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04-29-2021 , 11:27 AM
Yeah, I have too much attachment to suited aces and should probably just fold pre.

Will post results tomorrow (was a *dramatic* hand).
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04-29-2021 , 01:08 PM
In PLO one of the toughest decisions postflop is deciding when to give free cards and when not too. Generally speaking, when I flop bottom trips on a rainbow board in a live game I just bet it and hope to win a small pot right there and move on to the next hand. If I get called then crap gets real depending on the turn card.
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04-29-2021 , 02:56 PM
Bet your Ax bare trips for 1/2 pot or so otf for protection against PPs and worse 3x, but fold if called facing further sizeable action on most turns. (You were probably dead on the flop.) People don't thin value non-boats for multiple streets.

Your sizing ott is not good, it's hard to get called by worse. V's probably re-potting your PSB because V thinks you like your hand and can exploit you. Fold.
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04-29-2021 , 05:13 PM
Fold pre.

I probably call the turn shove, still got a few outs to beat T3, only behind 55 and TT. TT should be betting this flop to build the pot given most 3's will stay in. Does this guy have 55? T3? Plenty of 3's this guy also could shove with, if he thinks you are trying to steal it.

Potting turn is terrible. Why? What is going to call you that you can beat? This just feels like "my hand improved, time to bet". But you pot to get people to fold to protect your hand? Get value? You aren't getting value out of bottom boat here often, and even when you are, they can suck out on the river to beat you enough of the time that it sucks.

I probably lead the flop. This kind of board won't get as many continuation bets from strong hands, so why let it get checked around? Bet and get called by worse 3's. If someone has TT or T3, sucks, but you aren't deep enough to worry too much about it.

I fold turn if player is known to be exceptionally nitty, and am more likely to call if I know them to overvalue hands.
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04-29-2021 , 08:16 PM
Thanks for all the advice here. Agree I played this one quite terribly.

I got it in crazy bad, V1 had TT and slowplayed it on the flop.

River came case 3 giving me my one outer for quads.

V1 ragequit the club.
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04-30-2021 , 12:30 AM
I don’t like the play by either player there lol. Can I join this cash game?
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04-30-2021 , 12:49 AM
yah raising pot on the turn with tens full and 3 players behind is really inexcusable
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04-30-2021 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by djmoneybags
I don’t like the play by either player there lol. Can I join this cash game?
You have to really like 5card hilo, since that's what's played most of the time. I'd say 70% is 5card, 30% mixed NLHE/PLO hi games (which was where I had this hand)
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