six max 1-2 utg opens to 7$ ,( his 26 %vpip from this pos), hero is bb, with Kh,Js,9h,8h. we are 255 bb deep. hero calls, flop Ad,Th,8d .(22$) hero check, villain bets 16$, hero calls. turn 9s. (56$). hero ?

my thoughts at the the table are: even if villain is betting his entire range on flop, he is holding the nuts QJ, about 20 % of the time, a set 10 % and a flush draw about 20 %. against this range im dead to another range c bet, or a raise. But villain still has a hand that is worse than mine about 40 %, and this part of range will have trouble if I lead 50 % pot. BUT WHY WOULD I LEAD THE NUTS, with no redraw this deep ? and can I bluff on a brick ? should I fold flop, where i have close to 50 % EQ.? that doesnt make sense to me... where do i go wrong ? ... in play, I BET 60 % , villian folds. maby just taking initiativ in a spot where trip aaa isnt nuts anymore, and my flop calling range is damn strong, isnt bad ?

Fold pre. Tri-suits are bad and kj9 is frequently dominated by ep opening ranges. Calling vs a btn opener would be fine. Even if 26% utg vpip is a bit too loose, i don't really think we need to defend this.

60% is a little small if you lead, this is still a wet board with diamonds out there, so i think 75%+ is more credible. Other sizings are possible but 60% is not an attractive option for me from a range of options.

Hero needs to be cautious not to overdonk here. Xc and turning hand into bluff on some rivers is a little better and harder for villains to punish imo. We should also xr turn at a smallish frequency to stay balanced but its not the ideal hand composition to xr here.

I would call pre, fold the flop, and am now check-folding.

Fold vs UTG open,fold flop.

Flop is a fold for the same reason preflop is a fold, even though you're getting the correct odds v range:

You won't be able to realize your equity properly often enough

That is also the same reason why we do a ton of folding in the SB even with some pretty sweet hands

halleluja thanks guys , it makes sense. Ive been struggling with this game so long now, 6 hours every day, but there is still simple things I get wrong, all the time. its not fun anymore !!. Im pretty xxx stubborn about it. But Omaha might be my downfall. This hand made me feel totally stupid, but I get it, when you explain. I just woke up today, getting my coffee ready, and the fact that 4 capable strangers took time to share their knowledge with me, just makes me feel grateful. im gonna skip the coffee, and go out and feed a stray dog, right now!!! note to self :no more tri suits vs utg , remember realization on future streets.

try and remember one thing, sometimes villain gives you the right odds to lose more money

Pre is beyond fine.... guys he said 6max... vs a 6max REGULAR range which is only 17-18ish it's a call, vs the person he defined its certainly a call, as are at least 20% of tri suit hands.


Edit: Correction, it's close, depends on rake structure. If it's high per hand rake= fold, if it's a time game = call. but prob a call vs 26% vpip even with high rake.

I wouldn't fault an expert for defending here, and being able to punish the slightly wide ep range postflop. (And the myriad associated leaks that are likely to accompany it)

But 250bb deep oop we should take a conservative mindset, and this hand lacks the nut and redraw potential that we need to play agressively against another deep-stack. Hero is going to be hand-cuffed on even many favorable textures.

At 100bb sure call could be ok, and we have a lot less downside to worry about.

Agree many tri-suits are playable, but we don't need to play double gappers and tri-suits together, especially our board coverage is dominated by so many better broadway combos (that should always open from ep).

There should be many other profitable adjustments we can make from the bb.