$1/$2, $5 bring in - ARIA Las Vegas.
Hero in SB w/ 9865

2 limps, hero raises to $20 in BB.
Hero ($800)
V1 UTG ($800)
V2 MP ($1200)

V1, V2 call

Flop ($60) 984
Hero bets $50. V1, V2 both call.
Turn ($210) 9845
Hero checks. V1, V2 both check
River ($210) 98459
Hero bets $50. V1 min-raises to $100, V2 folds.

Hero?

I'll virtually never fold here. Question is to call, or to raise?

I don't think it's even close, pot it.

B1ochemical you might missed 67ss is nuts here.

By betting 1/4 pot you really underrapp your hand,so villain might be thinking

His full house or even flush is good here.The question is is he going to call your shove withfullhouse or flush ?

Just to say if he had straight flush checking turn when sets and other big flushes will

call a bet would be super bad move.

Against bad players i would always shove here:they always find some reason for calling.

I didn't miss the straight flush, i'm just saying that against a fish and that minraise OTR, i am always potting it.

Min raise again - You'll get your answer

Joey Ingram lost about 14k to runner runner quads at Aria (2/5/10) so I like he would just call. QQ99 vs AT55ss 98355 board.

From my experience at the 1/2/5 at Aria, river raises are the nuts almost always.

You have to raise, you have 2nd nuts vs a player you described as a fish and the chances of any player having a straight flush on this action should be severely discounted

What if the fish is a super-passive calling station with a nitty raising range? There are different kinds of fish.

Still have to raise. Hero's sizing OTR makes this hand weird, but you have to raise and yeah obviously it depends on what type of fish is playing us, but i'd imagine we'd get calls from most boats.

River is a mandatory raise for value against all opponents except those who only raise with the stone cold nuts - against that opponent its an easy fold

Now planning the sizing and what to do if villain puts in another bet becomes interesting, especially if villain will play the same 98 boat agressively

But even against a tighter opponent hero should be happy going for $75-150 of additional value, if not more

Fish aren’t min raising a straigt flush here

My point is that some fish play that way. There is a wide range of fish and we haven't been told anything about what makes this particular player fishy. Just playing your hand and not thinking about your opponent's range is low-level thinking. It might be a 3bet against a random player, but we should be able to do better than that by asking OP for details.

Min-raise usually means he is either at the bottom end of the range of hands that he thinks are viable value raises or he is super-strong and afraid you will fold to a larger raise. In either case, I think potting it seems like a mistake. Is there a 3bet size where we can easily fold to a 4bet because our hand strength is face up to even the fishiest of fish?

So, what if this is a player who we think would have raised 88, 44, and probably 98 on the flop but just called even with the strongest of draws that most of us would jam the flop with because he is a fish who overvalues made hands relative to draws?

All in

all these "what ifs" make livepoker so painfully slow. I guess that´s what people are doing if they are "tanking".

There's no making reads or analyzing betting patterns in online poker?

You say live poker is painfully slow, I say online poker is too fast.

PT 2:
Yes, I was praying the fish (I called them a fish because they overvalued weak hands) would raise me so I could re-raise, and they did! My thoughts are, they're raising with a bluff, a worse full house, or the straight flush. If I raise a lot, they're folding full houses maybe, definitely folding bluffs, and shoving the nuts. I figure I can get way more calls with a small raise though, so elect a small size.
Hero raises to $200, villain raises to $400.

Hero??

At this point looks like fish has at least 98,you can`t fold for 200 more.

This

Raise to like 250 and get called by a worse boat a lot.

what if he has 98 too ?

they can chop then

V showed straight flush. I still think you have to bet/raise river every time. Only one hand beats us, and an extremely unlikely combo at that.

you have 3 hands in 2 months where you lost against straight flush

Raisey daisey

i run good

Fold river with top boat vs min raise to a min bet? No thanks