1/2/5 PLO. I have about $500 to start, and the opponents cover me.

I raise to $20 UTG w/ AAT8. MP and button call.

Flop ($60) T63. I bet $60. Button calls.
Turn ($180) 3 I bet $110. Button calls
River ($400). Q I go all in for $310 as a value bet.

Thoughts? Standard, or overplayed?

Should be standard providing you have some bluffs OTR here.

Seems pretty standard.

Not too spewy but alarm bells should go off when he flats the turn.


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Hard to find many bluffs for hero that aren't complete air balls. Board doesn't favour a UTG opening range at all so it's hard to give many semi bluffs to hero and even then there are very few worse combos that can call making AA not a very good value bet.

c/f river

The hands that can call a bet on river and you beat include KKxx AQxx Q10xx.. I just think your hand is a bluff catcher on the turn. I usually go into check call mode on turn w your type of holding on that type of board. Keep ranges of villain wide and allow Q10 type hand to bluff or missed straight draws to bluff.

On that river I don’t even know if I want a call... and that there is the problem

Depends on your opponent

You'd need a pretty bluffy image for that play to work IMHO, kind of hard to rep a missed draw since there aren't that many drawing combos on that board that you'd open UTG as well.

It depends on your image. It might be bad for me to bet because my reg opponents would almost never call me with KKxx, but they probably also fold a hand like 7543, maybe even something as strong as 66xx.

There are some opponents who you should c/f unimproved on the turn or river once you get called on the flop.

I don't understand what we're afraid of. A slow played set because we pot flop and the board is dry still seems unlikely. 345x type hands or something like AT3x? In short there aren't many hands we should be beat by.

It may be a situation where we aren't being called enough by worse but in that case we should be bluffing more on some street - like if we think he's folding turn a lot because board paired then we should be betting it a ton.

I probably check the turn once the board pairs. Ton of showdown value and not a lot of hands that we're afraid of improving, plus hard to get a lot of value from worse. I would double barrel here with pretty much any hand I c-bet that doesn't have showdown value.

Given no read, I assume the opponent has a range of mostly fit-or-fold hands.

I'm expecting a lot of T3xx and 63xx hands from typical opponents. I'm not surprised to see a flopped middle or bottom set but I wouldn't classify those holdings as necessarily slow plays. A lot of players don't raise with non-nut made hands.

Turn sizing is way too large, both for our hand in particular and this spot in general.

If you flat with 33 or 66 pre-flop and then flop a set 100bb deep 3 way you should be classing it as the nuts on a dry board like this.

What about hands like KK57, QT78? Basically any T with some sort of wrap or straight with back door draws or any KKxx hand that had some straight/back door equity on the flop.

If you are only expecting T3 and 63 hands to call the flop (and then call the turn?) then you can be printing money by c-betting this flop and turn runout.

If we aren't shoving AA on the river here, we're going to be super polarized if we do shove river since we don't have many 3x (or maybe 3x is too thin also if AA is, so rather stuff like T3 or 63) in our UTG range so it's mostly just TT and maybe QQ (again, turn bet seems too thin for QQ tho based on your assumptions) for value.

There's a lot more combos of 789x hands tho that we should be bluffing with after taking this line though - which will make our river shoving range too bluff heavy if we are discounting AA from it.

I like looks exactly like what u have though

I like how we're talking about balance in 1/2 lollive games.

Yeah we should be super polarized when we bet there cause we're only getting called by maaybe QQ and KK ott and QQ just got there. I mean it's fine against some, but vs the population you're setting money on fire.

You should probably try to avoid projecting how you would play a hand onto other players.

At these stakes, you probably make more money from an exploitable, polarized river shove range instead of a perfectly balanced range.

I think more players will fold KKxx on the turn or river than would call down with QTxx.