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Riverbetsize against probably c/f Riverbetsize against probably c/f

04-14-2010 , 09:54 AM
How much should i bet on the River? Of course, 90% of the time he plays c/f and he beats only bluffs with a call. So betting big and polarizing isnīt a good option because his hand is so crushed by my range. But nobody ever turn a hand like KK22 into a bluff here by betting half potsize...

And do you raise the turn?


Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,048)
BB ($395)
UTG ($400)
CO ($341)
Hero ($818)

Dealt to Hero J Q K T

fold, fold, Hero raises to $12, SB calls $10, BB calls $8

FLOP ($36) T 2 7

SB checks, BB bets $28, Hero calls $28, SB folds

TURN ($92) T 2 7 6

BB bets $56, Hero calls $56

RIVER ($204) T 2 7 6 3

BB checks, Hero bets $101, BB folds

Hero shows J Q K T

Hero wins $202
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04-14-2010 , 10:09 AM
If he is c/f a lot then why not bet 1/4 pot or so and try to give him a very good price. I would def raise turn smallish if we know he will not pay off river very often.
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04-14-2010 , 10:10 AM
Do not raise the turn. If villain is solid, consider checking back the river of betting it very small, like <1/4 pot.

If villain is a moron/station, just valuebet ~2/3 pot.
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04-14-2010 , 10:46 AM
I think raising flop is superior to calling.
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04-14-2010 , 10:51 AM
Why? I think it makes the hand unnecessarily complicated. What's our plan if he shoves? What's our plan on various turns if he just calls? I think calling, keeping the pot manageable, and playing poker in position is clearly superior here.
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04-14-2010 , 10:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CZI
Why? I think it makes the hand unnecessarily complicated. What's our plan if he shoves? What's our plan on various turns if he just calls? I think calling, keeping the pot manageable, and playing poker in position is clearly superior here.
Well, I dont raise to fold this obv. For one I think he`ll get it in with a dominated hand here a fair amount. Second our hand is good enough to get it in now vs a reasonable range, but we have a ton of reverse implied odds/tough decisions on almost any card that hits on latter streets.
Also raising here puts a lot of pressure on the big stack acting behind us, and we likely get him to fold a hand as strong as second set and maybe a naked ahi fd as well.
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04-15-2010 , 09:22 AM
if we were oop i'd agree with MATT111. here i like your line, on the river i'd bet either a lil more like 70-80 to get a smaller flush or smth to pay off or a little more like 140 to mb get some herocalls.
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