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06-03-2014 , 05:53 PM
I have been playing PLO for not a long time. Still confused in some spots.
Hero mp with a864hh 3k stack
7 limps to bb who makes it 125 , 6 players call
Flop ~ 800
A96ddh bb bets 450 , folds to hero?
1 player left to act after me.
No reads on player , table just started. He looks like a grinder.
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06-03-2014 , 06:15 PM
I'd fold. A9 or better has you crushed, and there's lots of draws you currently have a better hand than but that have pretty substantial equity edge against your hand (for example A7TJdd). Also, if you just call, turns are going to be very difficult to play and other than a 6 or A or 2-4 of hearts, there's not really any good turn cards that can come.

Also do you have suited ace? If not I'd just pitch it pre
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06-04-2014 , 01:04 PM
seems like an easy fold.. had there been 3 to the flop and original raiser bet i might peel one off but not to raiser that bets first to act into 6 people no way he has at least AK with flush draw
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06-04-2014 , 01:16 PM
1. not folding preflop
2. just be glad villain didn't go for a CR.
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06-04-2014 , 02:54 PM
Ok , I folded
Coming from holdem background it didn't feel to good to fold that.
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06-04-2014 , 04:33 PM
Is the Rio 5-10-25 that bad that you're in it though you have not been playing PLO "for a long time"? God bless.

As to the hand, what they said. I'd need a read/history on the villain to peel one here at that sizing/stacks, assuming your BDFD is to the nuts.
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06-05-2014 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by IronedSheik
Is the Rio 5-10-25 that bad that you're in it though you have not been playing PLO "for a long time"? God bless.

As to the hand, what they said. I'd need a read/history on the villain to peel one here at that sizing/stacks, assuming your BDFD is to the nuts.
i would assume you are a PLO noob and definitely don't play near as high as these stakes.. top and bottom on this spot against villain's range is as good as bottom two.. you would be burning money with the quickness if you call too much in these spots
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06-05-2014 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by inthenightsky
I'd fold. A9 or better has you crushed, and there's lots of draws you currently have a better hand than but that have pretty substantial equity edge against your hand (for example A7TJdd). Also, if you just call, turns are going to be very difficult to play and other than a 6 or A or 2-4 of hearts, there's not really any good turn cards that can come.

Also do you have suited ace? If not I'd just pitch it pre
Seems like villain shouldn't have much A9xx given he raised the BB. I'm also not great at PLO but this seems like a decent spot to peel one off to me. We beat all his rundowns and we can potentially bluff him off a better hand depending on how the board runs out.
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06-07-2014 , 09:51 AM
+1 for call and hit heart
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06-09-2014 , 09:10 AM
1) dose villain cover hero? if not, what stack?

I would advice hero to fold here.. The hand could be played.. it is kinda iffy without experience.
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06-17-2014 , 03:46 PM
With a player behind, its an easy fold. If our call can close the action, we might be able to find a call if we also float with big hands.

Pre flop, hand is playable if the ace is suited and we are in LP, might even be worth a raise to open at co/btn. But from MP, even with the suited ace, I'd hesitate to play that hand given the amount of limpers in front and active players behind. If its a nonb-suited acer, its an auto-fold from MP.
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06-25-2014 , 08:25 AM
Villain is leading to six players bit over half a pot and board is extremely draw heavy. Bet-sizing raises some questions unless villain has a pot-sized turn bet left behind. What is the villain representing if flop bet-sizing does not match his stack, he is a good player and not tricky?

After this flop bet his range seem extremely polarized. Ultramonster, ie. AA with flush draw fits well to the action as well as a semi-weak or weak holding which really cannot stand the heat. But now you do not really have enough information to make a good G-bucks decision Without reads this is a stuff decision, considering your holding is crushed by his top range. Options worth to consider are to call and evaluate the turn or simply fold immediately.

Without reads and an established table image fold seems like a safer option. But I think calling flop in an intention on taking the pot down if villain checks the turn could be a viable line as well.

Last edited by Petteri; 06-25-2014 at 08:32 AM.
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06-29-2014 , 09:37 PM
I may peel one
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07-08-2014 , 08:30 AM
1 player after you + weak 2 pair + lack of experience= easy fold. i agree that even watching some basic free plo youtube videos may be helpful, but if ur playing these stakes, invest in some master courses.
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07-09-2014 , 08:27 PM
If we have top/bottom pair + nut gs + nbdfd I'm assuming people are peeling?

Peeling with any GS and the bd nfd?
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07-13-2014 , 01:00 PM
i fold flop 99% of time
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