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Old 02-26-2020, 05:13 PM   #1
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Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

Hello everyone,

I invite all interested owners of Apple devices to take part in beta testing of the application.

Preflopper is a tool to improve your game in Pot Limit Omaha. We have carried out hundreds of billions of simulations to find GTO (Game Theory Optimal) solutions for each hand in most possible preflop positions.
You select your cards, position, and stack-depth and get a ready-made GTO solution.
The graphical interface implemented in the application allows not only to see the GTO solution but also to understand the degree of boundary decision. As a result, the application also allows you to play in an exploit style, adapting to the opponent’s game.

ATTENTION! Do not use the app while playing! This can lead to a ban and confiscation of your funds in poker rooms. The application was created exclusively for working on the game after the game session.
Please read the "Terms of Use and Privacy Policy" before using at:
https://www.instagram.com/preflopper/
https://www.facebook.com/preflopper.gto/

Those wishing to take part in beta testing:
1. Make sure that the software version on your iPhone is at least 13.1
2. Install Testflight on your smartphone. (Testflight - Apple's official beta test application for new applications)
3. Send your First Name Last Name and Email, just as in your Apple ID (Settings → top) to the email: preflopper.gto.plo@gmail.com
4. Testing will last two months. The number of testers is limited.

All wishes, amendments, indications of defects are welcome
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Old 02-27-2020, 07:20 AM   #2
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Re: Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

For clarity. The test period will end in 61 days. Then there will be improvements and a paid subscription. Now testing is absolutely free. I will answer all the questions here or in PM.

I ask existing testers for reviews, good or bad. Any feedback would be helpful.
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Old 02-27-2020, 06:46 PM   #3
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Re: Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

sent my info for testing - but it seems like the only actions considered are spots where 0 or 1 person has entered the pot before you.

do you also have data sets for scenarios where a third player is involved? maybe this will be obvious if/when I get access.

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Old 02-27-2020, 07:30 PM   #4
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Re: Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

the application is on beta-testing now for two month more.
Now it works for Raise First In and when it was 1 action before you.
But you are the second person, who asks to add 3-way spots and already work on it.
Thanks a lot for your feedback!
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Old 02-28-2020, 12:07 AM   #5
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Re: Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

when you go backwards from the "choose your position" tab it erases your hand. i think it would be better if it kept it as sometimes you want to change a single card and can't remember the exact combination.

what is the number above the upside down arrow above the RFI/Call bars? is it the percentile that the hand falls within your remaining range against their gto range?

there seem to be some labeling issues - Ten is not considered to be broadway even though it conventionally is defined as one afaik (with TJQKA being the broadway straight).

what's he significance of the labeling? some of them are extremely broad ie:
TT98ss and 2366ss fall into the exact same category.

and i don't have access to a solver to test these but some output seems suspect. for 100bb stacks no rake:

TT98 single suited is approx. 90% open from the button and 90% call (10% fold) against 3bet.

2236 single suited is approx. 75% open but 100% call against a 3bet?
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Old 02-28-2020, 04:41 AM   #6
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Re: Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

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when you go backwards from the "choose your position" tab it erases your hand. i think it would be better if it kept it as sometimes you want to change a single card and can't remember the exact combination.
Several people asked for it. Will be fixed

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what is the number above the upside down arrow above the RFI/Call bars? is it the percentile that the hand falls within your remaining range against their gto range?
There are 270725 original hands in Omaha.
for simplicity, I divided them into 82 categories.
the application tells us what part of this category we fold, and what part we call or RFI (raise first in).
After that, all the hands of this category was playing against the potential range of opponent (60%, 30%, 16% or 7%)
Cursor with the number and our Hand shows us the strength of this Hand in the category.
Thus, we should not guess whether our hand belongs to the best or worst part of the range

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there seem to be some labeling issues - Ten is not considered to be broadway even though it conventionally is defined as one afaik (with TJQKA being the broadway straight).
Ten counts as broadway. Mistakes possible ofc. Give a concrete example, please

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what's he significance of the labeling? some of them are extremely broad ie:
TT98ss and 2366ss fall into the exact same category.

and i don't have access to a solver to test these but some output seems suspect. for 100bb stacks no rake:

TT98 single suited is approx. 90% open from the button and 90% call (10% fold) against 3bet.

2236 single suited is approx. 75% open but 100% call against a 3bet?
these hands are in different categories. TT98 in "single-suited JJ-TT". 2236 in "single-suited 99-22 connected"

I checked these two solutions on solver now. All correct

Thanks a lot for your feedback!
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Old 03-01-2020, 06:01 PM   #7
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Re: Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

https://www.facebook.com/preflopper....type=3&theater
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Old 03-01-2020, 06:45 PM   #8
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Old 03-01-2020, 07:30 PM   #9
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Old 03-02-2020, 11:31 AM   #10
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Re: Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

Telegram group for Preflopper:

https://t.me/joinchat/JKunshu1HSnvxpi2_k49mw

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Old 03-06-2020, 08:07 AM   #11
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Re: Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

Thanks to everyone testing Preflopper!
Thanks to your participation in the application, several bugs were discovered:

1. A stack of 50 bb. ps200. MP position - upper scale (FOLD / RFI) is not true for all categories. Purely technical jamb. It will be fixed.
2. For categories "QQ ...." and "Rundowns ..." the slider does not show correctly. On the% opening scale everything is correct. bug found - will be fixed
3. When you return back, the selected hand will remain.

Remarks:
1. Due to the color of some scales, all raises (RFI, 3-bet, 4-bet) will be the same color.
2. I'm working on adding 3 situations

I remind you that free testing will last until April 27th.

email: preflopper.gto.plo@gmail.com
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Old 03-26-2020, 05:18 AM   #12
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Re: Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

Hello!
I would like to thank everyone who is testing Preflopper. Thanks to you, some flaws were discovered that will be fixed in the next version.
Your feedback is very helpful and motivates us to develop the product. People write that they began to play better and saved a lot of money simply without unnecessary actions, as before. We are very pleased!
In these strange times, when most of us are forced to stay home. Use the time to improve your poker skills!
Free beta testing will last another month, until April 27th.

email: preflopper.gto.plo@gmail.com
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Old 04-11-2020, 06:56 AM   #13
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Re: Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

appears to me there is a mistake in the SS, no Ace, broadway disconnected cat. Preflopper suggests to fold BBBxss hands from the bt and in the BB. These are supposed to be opens/defends according to other sources
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Old 04-14-2020, 03:54 AM   #14
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Re: Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

Hi,
category "SS, no Ace, 2-3 broadway disconnected". Hands KQJ7-JT32.
You did not specify rake, so I take the MTT first.
BTN open:
https://gyazo.com/d4781ec743c1d75dbedc6a1576e28daa
there are 15% of open-range in this category

BB vs BTN:
https://gyazo.com/f33e9a64992234c377ac43fc40afc9ef
40% of defense

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Old 04-14-2020, 04:02 AM   #15
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Re: Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

Let's do the same for rake 5% 4bb CAP.

BTN open:
https://gyazo.com/7e1e3282757663cbad44361f43f8c0bc
11% of open-range in this category

BB vs BTN:
https://gyazo.com/ff1a1bed53a3d98d7197e5c209d19616
7% of defense

yes, this category is weak, but it contains open and defense parts
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Old 04-14-2020, 05:21 AM   #16
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I just checked again and Preflopper shows KQj5ss suited to K as a fold from the bt 100bb, plo200. Seems wrong to me.

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Old 04-14-2020, 08:18 AM   #17
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https://gyazo.com/9bc6469c0645fa660337222841f7e36b

I'm testing the new version now with fixed bugs. It shows me to open. Unfortunately, I can't install the previous version.
I can see why it happens: in the old version, the strength of hands, in this case, counted against a 30% range. In the new version, all open positions counted against 100% and when we faced 3-bet it's counted again against 4,5,6,7%...range depends on the situation
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Old 04-16-2020, 01:18 AM   #18
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Re: Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

I applied for the trial and sent my details to the email address and haven't got any replies, is it too late?
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Old 04-16-2020, 04:30 PM   #19
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I applied for the trial and sent my details to the email address and haven't got any replies, is it too late?
Hello,
it is not too late
I answer for everyone, please send one more time: preflopper.gto.plo@gmail.com
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Old 04-17-2020, 03:09 AM   #20
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it is not too late
I answer for everyone, please send one more time: preflopper.gto.plo@gmail.com
Sent again via different email! Ty
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Old 05-10-2020, 07:41 PM   #21
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Re: Preflopper. Free beta testing. Ready-made GTO solutions for preflop PLO for iOS only

How will Preflopper be different than Upswing's Matrix?

When will your program be available on Android and Windows?
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Old 05-31-2020, 12:36 PM   #22
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How will Preflopper be different than Upswing's Matrix?

It has an absolutely different interface.

When will your program be available on Android and Windows?
Now we waiting for Apple approval. At this moment we don't have plans to make it on Android or Windows (it is too easy to crack there).
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