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12-30-2011 , 09:28 PM

hotcocacola

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 644

Im interested in SB's and BB's winrate. If i look my results, then i lose alot from those positions.

Can someone give me good info/reading about that?

thanks

* 3-6 players
* PLO200-600

Last edited by hotcocacola; 12-30-2011 at 09:35 PM.

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12-30-2011 , 10:40 PM

HitmanDK

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 405

I assume you play 6-max. You are in SB/BB 16,7 times per 100 hands. If you loose less than 17bb/100 from the BB then all is good. If you loose more you are doing something wrong and would be better off folding all your BBs.
For the SB you should be losing close to 9bb/100.

Basically unless you own your opponents very hard postflop it is best to play very tight from the blinds.

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12-30-2011 , 11:35 PM

j.a.o.p.

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,529

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Originally Posted by HitmanDK

imho that`s wrong,
always folding would give you -100bb/100 in bb and -50bb/100 in sb

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12-30-2011 , 11:41 PM

HitmanDK

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 405

Doh! You are obv right.

Well.. ehm.. what I said with the above mentioned winrates instead

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12-30-2011 , 11:47 PM

j.a.o.p.

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,529

btw,positional winrates are very misleading....
they have to be multiplied by the frequency you put money in...
e.g. mr.supertight vpip otb with aces only...what will give him >200bb/100....

tight players will always have better bb/100 than loose players in non-blind positions and vice versa

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01-02-2012 , 10:16 PM

grinder10

aka Odd_Oddsen

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 428

as mentioned earliyer anything better than -50bb/100 in sb and -100bb/100 in the bb is ok.
If you have worse bb/100 than this you should obv start folding everything and take it from there.

good bb/100's from different positions at midstakes 6-max PLO on stars is imo:
sb: ~-20bb/100 +
bb: ~-35bb/100 +
early: ~12bb/100 +
middle: ~18bb/100 +
cutoff: ~25bb/100 +
button: ~35bb/100 +

Last edited by grinder10; 01-02-2012 at 10:21 PM.

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01-03-2012 , 12:29 AM

hotcocacola

grinder

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Thanks odd!

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01-03-2012 , 06:26 AM

rendalli

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 597

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Originally Posted by j.a.o.p.

I'm tired, but imo this is wrong.

mr.supertight, will have a huge winrate on the hands he will actualy play, but his winrate on the button won't be higher/lower than the one of the loose player (per se) as all hands he is playing the button will count.
Multiplying by the frequencies is not necessary as both players have the same frequency of hands they play on the button (1/6).

Mr.Supertight will play 4 hands in 200 and win 24BB => 12BB/100
Mr. Looseygoosey will play 170 hands in 200 and win 24BB => 12BB/100

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01-03-2012 , 06:46 AM

SeaKing

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 5,387

What j.a.o.p. said would be true if you added the filter of VPIP = true, but without that filter what he said is wrong.

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01-03-2012 , 02:30 PM

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j.a.o.p.

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,529

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Originally Posted by rendalli

upps....

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