this has not been what's happened the last few years
there is way more plo than a few years back and much of it has been sustained.
hold em is a super boring game that often rewards super right preflop play. to top it off the people at the average hold em table are miserable compared to the average plo table.

nl is dirt and basically dead online and it isn't bc of big name pros playing other games

I kind of feel like PLO is boring and that I get rewarded by being tighter than everyone preflop.

How so? Even if you wait for the top 5% of hands to play, you’re rarely much better than 65% pre and obviously much worse when pots are multiway which is frequently. Good luck playing 1 hand per hour and expecting it to hold up.

I probably have about a 20% VPIP, which almost always makes me the tightest player at the table. I don't spew money with two pair plus a weak draw, bottom/middle set, bottom wraps, or non-nut flush draws because my preflop hand selection makes it less likely that I have those hands. My game is oriented towards sticking to hands that play well in multi-way pots and encouraging the existence of those pots.

Big pots and sick runouts don't excite me, so PLO is just another form of poker to me. Hand ranges tend to be obvious, so it's hard to surprise me. It can be slow, which makes it tedious when I'm not in a hand and I am way too disciplined to ever play a hand because I'm bored or can't handle folding 30 hands in a row preflop.

Just make it a limit game rather than pot limit.

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Let me ask this; why is it pot limit and not no limit?

PLO variance is already huge and that makes NLO basically unplayable. We can then call it NLF, no limit flipping.

No limit omaha would actually have less variance because you could just jam the turn with the nuts preventing your opponents from making profitable calls with 14+ out draws, or you could just jam aces pre. It wouldn't be as exciting.

How about PLO with no limit river bets?

I'd play limit omaha if it was available and it was more EV. I play PLO because it's where I make the most money, not because it is the most fun. I'm not an action junkie. I make money by exploiting action junkies.

Supposedly, when big-bet omaha was introduced to Vegas, it was played no-limit and was so bad that they switched to pot-limit in about a week because people would just go all-in on the flop.

One adjustment would probably be to slow-play the nuts more often to induce a river over-bet bluff.

FWIW I have played NLO before and it seemed like a decent game.

yeah NLO is half decent, and it adds some interesting strategic questions into the mix

the equities in omaha are so dynamic and a pot limit structure makes the task of protecting and denying equity more nuanced and fun

I think omaha and a pot limit structure have a great synergy. I dont feel like pot limit is just an arbitrary part of the game, there is a reason this variant came out on top

I think the game would be more popular if the spewtards folded more. Nothing more annoying the a spewtards calling a 4 bet preflop with kqj5 and flopping 557 to bear your ask hand. Spewtards ruin everything

Those are the players who make the game worth it. You should probably 4bet less.

I think that it is hard to gauge when you factor in both live and online.

Live I think it is surely growing in the USA and I hear the same for other parts of the world.

High stakes online might be in a decline but if you are willing to play on multiple sites and take risks w/ game security/bankroll you can still find a bunch of action.

Micro/Small stakes I think have to be growing (not in a huge way) but I have no data to back that up.

They may make it worth it, but I am saying this the reason the game is not more popular. Average players don't like the big swings. Spewtards cause lots of variance

PLO is becoming the only popular game to play on the pokerrr2.0 app right now. I'm in around 12 clubs and all of them but 1 play PLO or ROE (Combo of PLO and NLHE).

Often times there is a NL and a PLO table up in these clubs, and the PLO is full with a waitlist and the NHLE is empty.

All 1/2 Stakes but most have $10-$20K on the table so plays higher than that

So I think in that sense it is becoming way more popular becuase theres more gamble in it

NLHE is more of a nittier game at 1/2 limits so PLO 1/2 on the apps is more popular
becuas eof more gamble

PLO is also a better game for cheating, so people who share hole cards should prefer PLO over NL.

Live PLO is where all of the whales play at my casino. They would always go broke playing NL and now they go broke less and when they win, they win big. My casino is starting to spread short deck next month but I doubt it will make any waves. Only about 20 people in the cardroom even know what short deck is.

any game that cranks up the action and variance is definitely fun, but shortdeck almost feels like a dumbed down game designed for lure fish into losing stacks

imo the beauty of NL is that our equity is so concentrated and we rarely connect, so range VS range dynamics become everything and the game is elevated beyond the board into this abstract place. shortdeck takes a lot of that away