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08-07-2009 , 01:45 PM

homerjaysimpson

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $6(BB) Replayer
Hero ($600)
BB ($519)
UTG ($875)
UTG+1 ($1,459)
CO ($600)
BTN ($686)

Dealt to Hero T

fold, UTG+1 raises to $21, fold, fold, Hero calls $18, fold

FLOP ($48) 4

Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

TURN ($48) 4

Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $24, Hero raises to $117, UTG+1 calls $93.60

RIVER ($283) 4

J 7 2

8

Hero?

opponent was unknown, no reads, no stats...

i never put him here on a strong made hand (i think would cb every good draw or made hand on the flop)...

turn play ok?...how would you play that river?

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08-07-2009 , 01:51 PM

sc000t

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I like a lead on the turn if you want to try and win this pot.

Don't like the c/r.

I'd give up now and puss out.

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08-07-2009 , 02:06 PM

Parlay Slow

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I think you definitely have to bluff at the river

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08-07-2009 , 03:06 PM

JROSEALM

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Originally Posted by sc000t

I like a lead on the turn if you want to try and win this pot.

Don't like the c/r.

I'd give up now and puss out.

samesies

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08-07-2009 , 06:54 PM

rand

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this one no good for you

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08-08-2009 , 08:19 AM

Terkman

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as played you have to bet river and I don't think its close

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08-08-2009 , 09:13 AM

Pokerpudel

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as played obv. river bet jeah but I dont like the turn c/r. I mean are you ever c/r turn if flop goes check/check? I think he might call down with a marginal hand because he would not put you on a strong hand. So I just dont like the turn c/r at all.

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08-08-2009 , 12:07 PM

Doorbread

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I don't understand why people don't like c/ring if we're going to bluff this pot. He's going to peel with a wide range if we just lead and on the turn he can't top two+. You have to fire river.

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08-08-2009 , 05:20 PM

homerjaysimpson

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Originally Posted by Pokerpudel

of course i can, i don't say it is my standard play (of course i often bet turn more then i would c/r), but i also have that play in my arsenal...i don't know if this the best play vs unknown, but against a player with stats and reads i have no problem with doing that...

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08-09-2009 , 04:12 AM

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HeyEveryone

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u gotta have the perfect dynamic for another barrell to work. It realy looks like u just spazzing out. I dislike CR turn.

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08-09-2009 , 05:56 AM

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Jarednizzine

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Originally Posted by Parlay Slow

I think you definitely have to bluff at the river

this.

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08-10-2009 , 12:01 AM

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Bogglor

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I think you should bluff the river simply because it's blanky and it's unlikely he even has a hand to bluffcatch with. His most likely holdings are missed hearts, one pair of jacks, etc. Not worried at all about 56 because most players would be likely to c-bet an OESD on the flop heads up. You're repping a set pretty hard with your line and obviously you have zero to show down, so yeah... bluff river seems pretty necessary.

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08-10-2009 , 12:17 AM

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JROSEALM

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Originally Posted by Bogglor

i dont think that makes a whole lot of sense

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08-10-2009 , 11:11 AM

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wazz

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Seems like it would be a pretty bad bluff on the river to me and that we're getting snapped by any two pair.

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08-10-2009 , 01:11 PM

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sc000t

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Originally Posted by Bogglor

I think you should bluff the river simply because it's blanky and it's unlikely he even has a hand to bluffcatch with. His most likely holdings are missed hearts, one pair of jacks, etc. Not worried at all about 56 because most players would be likely to c-bet an OESD on the flop heads up. You're repping a set pretty hard with your line and obviously you have zero to show down, so yeah... bluff river seems pretty necessary.

He probably has a missed heart draw that didn't bet the flop

but

He probably doesn't have 56xx because he'd usually bet the flop

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08-10-2009 , 02:43 PM

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Jarednizzine

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Originally Posted by sc000t

He probably has a missed heart draw that didn't bet the flop

but

He probably doesn't have 56xx because he'd usually bet the flop

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Accurate, If he has both draws he's without a doubt leading that flop. seems like a missed heart draw. bet river.

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