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Old 01-26-2019, 09:16 AM   #1
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PLO 20/20 bluffcatcher

Just played an interesting hand and I am not quite sure if I should have folded river:

unknown villain 3k
I cover

Villain raises in LP to 80, I call with AQT7cc, Button (fish) calls, both blinds call

Flop T82r
Villain checks, I bet 2/3, button and villain both call
Turn 4c (I have nutflush now)
I bet 3/4 and villain calls
River 6r
He shoves for 1/2 pot

Hero?
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:42 PM   #2
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Re: PLO 20/20 bluffcatcher

Really not sure what you are doing here but all I can say is this hand was played terribly.
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Old 01-26-2019, 02:30 PM   #3
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Re: PLO 20/20 bluffcatcher

T8[2,3,4,5] boards seem to be really confusing a lot of posters on here. I suggest you take some time to think about your ranges and plays in and out of position on this board texture from on overall strategy perspective.

Which hands are you betting? Which are you checking/folding? Which are you check/raising? Why?
Etc.

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Old 01-26-2019, 04:49 PM   #4
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Re: PLO 20/20 bluffcatcher

U bet this flop into 4 other people???? His line is wierd but your just too wide in general it seems which means he can exploit with wierd lines. I call fwiw but as soon as I see anything besides 97/bluff I rethink my overall strategy particularly the flop. If I ever see him turning jj+ Into a bluff I go crazy as well.

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Old 01-26-2019, 06:29 PM   #5
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Re: PLO 20/20 bluffcatcher

Well this is my point of view:

Preflop is standard, 3 spots who 100%VPIP

Flop: T82r
Probably should check a very high percentage of the time, especially 4handed (I dont remember correctly but I think we were 4handed). I would bet flop with sets, 2pairs, and hands with a lot of equity + blockers like JT97bdfd. I mean I dont have the best hand to bet flop but I dont think its that terrible especially against this specific players.
Turn 4c with nutflush now (3 players)
doenst really change much and villains should not have that many sets/2pairs, bet is fine I guess and villain calls
River 6r
So he shoves 1/2 pot into me, this doesnt make that much sense because he shouldnt have too many 97xx combos in his range as I even have a 7 blocker; but he has a lot of missed combos but I am not quite sure if he is capable of bluffing.

EDIT: check raising not a ton of hands because we were really deep; check calling bottom 2pair, draws etc, 1pair hands with a some equity (should check call my particular hand more often than betting); betting top 2, good combo draws with blockers;

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Old 01-27-2019, 11:11 AM   #6
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Re: PLO 20/20 bluffcatcher

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Originally Posted by plsdontkillmyvibe View Post
Well this is my point of view:

River 6r
So he shoves 1/2 pot into me, this doesnt make that much sense because he shouldnt have too many 97xx combos in his range as I even have a 7 blocker;
You don't think somebody would x/call flop, x/calls turn with an open ended straight draw? Hmmm...

I mean, what would be bluffing this river that missed, and that you beat? Maybe some random spew or some JT9 at the worst. I don't see how this would be a profitable call in the long run on this river.
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Old 01-27-2019, 11:26 AM   #7
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Re: PLO 20/20 bluffcatcher

No I mean that he has a lot of combos which missed like JT9x, but I am not quite sure if he has a lot of 97xx so I am basically snapfolding a 7,9,J or Q. I dont know if he bluffs enough to make this a good call. Im pretty sure he doesnt continue with just a naked open enden straight draw on the turn. Maybe he had a flush draw (which I blocked).
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Old 01-27-2019, 12:28 PM   #8
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Re: PLO 20/20 bluffcatcher

I agree with the first post. Hand is so poorly played that it's hard to give a response. Take free card OTF, there are reasons for betting but we are looking for high cards OTT, but it's a definite check back with showdown value on the turn. Can only be betting one street here, the second bet is very -ev. I prefer checking the flop but definitely check the turn after betting flop. Now you are stuck having to call down on a total blank

Also the call pre is borderline in a spot where you can actually comfortably repot

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Old 01-28-2019, 12:07 PM   #9
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Re: PLO 20/20 bluffcatcher

If hand history is correct its 5 ways to the flop. You are just betting flop way too often if that’s in your betting range. Definitely check turn. Fold river (but this is the closest decision to me)
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