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Old 10-18-2017, 01:19 AM   #1
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Perplexing spot for AAXXss in SB - Seeking Input On Standard Line. $2.50/$5 PLO Ignition

$2.50/$5 PLO (Ignition)

Hero is SB with $500
Villain is UTG+2 with $239.84
1 fold
Villain raises to $17.50
1 fold
Hero A ❤️ A ♦️ 5 ❤️ 6 ♠️ raises to $57.50
BB folds
Villain raises to $177.50

Hero...?

So I’m curious if jamming for Villains remaining $62 is standard here. Moreover, is the re-pot from the SB with AAXXss a standard line? What effect does villains half buyin stack size have on our line here? I think it’s between flatting the open from the EP raiser and looking to get it all in preflop, but have to admit I’m lost trying to decide which is better...

Read is non-existent as this is my 2nd hand since getting seated, in the moment I figured his range to be double and single suited KKxx, big double/single suited rundowns, and medium double suited rundowns. I know that equities are so thin in this game that I should be looking to take flops, and also that I’m never ever folding here.


Note this is not a BBV post. I have been baffled by this situation at least a half dozen times since I started playing more omaha a few months ago.


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Old 10-18-2017, 02:49 AM   #2
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Re: Perplexing spot for AAXXss in SB - Seeking Input On Standard Line. $2.50/$5 PLO Ignition

Just get it in. For all you know, Villian could be just looking to gamble with whatever type of random hands, he could be on tilt, he could be pushing KKxx types of hands, whatever. Getting it in is +EV, folding is massively -EV.

If I have AAxx HU and the possibility to get it in preflop, I always do (assuming stack sizes of around 100-150BB).

Against a villian with a short stack, I would say that a re-raise from SB is an absolute must - Villian will have slightly more than a pot bet left on the flop, so you just ship it no matter what cards come up.
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Old 10-18-2017, 05:26 AM   #3
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Re: Perplexing spot for AAXXss in SB - Seeking Input On Standard Line. $2.50/$5 PLO Ignition

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Just get it in. For all you know, Villian could be just looking to gamble with whatever type of random hands, he could be on tilt, he could be pushing KKxx types of hands, whatever. Getting it in is +EV, folding is massively -EV.

If I have AAxx HU and the possibility to get it in preflop, I always do (assuming stack sizes of around 100-150BB).

Against a villian with a short stack, I would say that a re-raise from SB is an absolute must - Villian will have slightly more than a pot bet left on the flop, so you just ship it no matter what cards come up.


Stack size has a lot to do with repopping here. if he’s short repop. If he’s fully stacked then a call/ raise are both good as your hand is disguised and allows you to lead a lot more low flops


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Old 10-18-2017, 06:39 AM   #4
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Re: Perplexing spot for AAXXss in SB - Seeking Input On Standard Line. $2.50/$5 PLO Ignition

wtf is this ****, just wasted like 2min
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Old 10-18-2017, 07:06 AM   #5
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Re: Perplexing spot for AAXXss in SB - Seeking Input On Standard Line. $2.50/$5 PLO Ignition

AA65 with a suited Ace and the opportunity to put your entire stack in preflop?

Get it in and stop wasting our time.
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Old 10-18-2017, 08:55 PM   #6
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Re: Perplexing spot for AAXXss in SB - Seeking Input On Standard Line. $2.50/$5 PLO Ignition

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Old 10-18-2017, 11:54 PM   #7
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Re: Perplexing spot for AAXXss in SB - Seeking Input On Standard Line. $2.50/$5 PLO Ignition

Sweet. Thx.


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Old 10-19-2017, 02:27 AM   #8
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Old 10-19-2017, 09:53 AM   #9
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Re: Perplexing spot for AAXXss in SB - Seeking Input On Standard Line. $2.50/$5 PLO Ignition

Tankfold and move up where they respect your SB
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:47 AM   #10
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Re-pot and expect to loose. Next time be cognizant of the short stack open raise when deciding whether or not to 3B. So imo it's either call the original raise or 3B with the intention forcing the short stack to commit pre-flop. 3B fold is just lighting money on fire.
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Old 10-19-2017, 12:27 PM   #11
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Re: Perplexing spot for AAXXss in SB - Seeking Input On Standard Line. $2.50/$5 PLO Ignition

Easy fold
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Old 10-20-2017, 04:42 PM   #12
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Re: Perplexing spot for AAXXss in SB - Seeking Input On Standard Line. $2.50/$5 PLO Ignition

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$2.50/$5 PLO (Ignition)

Hero is SB with $500
Villain is UTG+2 with $239.84
1 fold
Villain raises to $17.50
1 fold
Hero A ❤️ A ♦️ 5 ❤️ 6 ♠️ raises to $57.50
BB folds
Villain raises to $177.50

Hero...?
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Old 10-21-2017, 09:06 AM   #13
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Re: Perplexing spot for AAXXss in SB - Seeking Input On Standard Line. $2.50/$5 PLO Ignition

Agree with easy fold. Probably folding the first time around.
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:23 PM   #14
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Re: Perplexing spot for AAXXss in SB - Seeking Input On Standard Line. $2.50/$5 PLO Ignition

fold, he might have AA !
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Old 10-22-2017, 06:49 PM   #15
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You need to go all in with Aa, if not some other games like chess or darts are more suitable for you.
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Old 10-22-2017, 08:16 PM   #16
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Re: Perplexing spot for AAXXss in SB - Seeking Input On Standard Line. $2.50/$5 PLO Ignition

Jesus Christ guys it’s not like I asked whether or not it’s a playable hand. I’m new(ish) to PLO and I’m basically asking if I should be shoving raggedy single suited aces or calling the original PFR and taking a flop out of position.

I guess the need to be a cvnt cannot be restrained in some instances though.


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Old 10-22-2017, 10:17 PM   #17
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Re: Perplexing spot for AAXXss in SB - Seeking Input On Standard Line. $2.50/$5 PLO Ignition

no, no just calling $17.50 with AAxx would be very very bad.
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Old 10-22-2017, 10:33 PM   #18
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:08 PM   #19
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Guess I should redeposit on Ignition. Thanks for confirming the games are still alive and well.
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Old 10-23-2017, 01:08 PM   #20
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Lol anytime.


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