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Overplayed toptwo face a check jam on turn. Overplayed toptwo face a check jam on turn.

04-13-2010 , 01:16 PM
Hi, had a wierd spot earlier. I guess my standard play its just to fold or 3b preeflopp but big fish in BB.

Im still new to omaha, think iv'e played around 60-70k hands or something so i get myself in this wierd spots all the time. How would any of u play this turn?

***** Hand History for Game 1287973884 ***** (Party)
$10000.00 USD PL Omaha - Tuesday, April 13, 06:33:23 ET 2010
Table Karin 35 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: consult ( $38614.19 USD )
Seat 2: PyrRollinA ( $20654.87 USD )
Seat 3: FishHater ( $22876.86 USD )
Seat 4: Svenskafel ( $33147.50 USD )
Seat 5: _lt_|-_-|_gt_ ( $29725.91 USD )
_lt_|-_-|_gt_ posts small blind [$50.00 USD].
consult posts big blind [$100.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to FishHater [ Tc Qc 6c 9s ]
PyrRollinA raises [$350.00 USD]
FishHater calls [$350.00 USD]
Svenskafel calls [$350.00 USD]
_lt_|-_-|_gt_ folds
consult calls [$250.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, 6s, 9d ]
consult checks
PyrRollinA bets [$1200.00 USD]
FishHater raises [$3125.00 USD]
Svenskafel folds
consult folds
PyrRollinA calls [$1925.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Js ]
PyrRollinA checks
FishHater bets [$5775.00 USD]
PyrRollinA raises [$17179.87 USD]


Check behind turn and reevaluate on river? im pretty clueless....
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04-13-2010 , 04:44 PM
Known in France as "Le converte":

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BB: $38614.19
UTG: $20654.87
Hero (CO): $22876.86
BTN: $33147.50
SB: $29725.91

Pre Flop: ($150.00) Hero is CO with T Q 6 9
UTG raises to $350, Hero calls $350, BTN calls $350, 1 fold, BB calls $250

Flop: ($1450.00) 4 6 9 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $1200.00, Hero raises to $3125, BTN folds, BB folds, UTG calls $1925

Turn: ($7700.00) J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5775.00, UTG raises to $17179.87
Overplayed toptwo face a check jam on turn. Quote
04-13-2010 , 05:00 PM
Pre is very bad and is what got you into this mess.

Postflop you're overplaying a bad hand. I don't like the flop raise. I think I'd check back the turn as played but I might be influenced by results.
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04-13-2010 , 06:41 PM
ur flop raise size sucks
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04-13-2010 , 07:18 PM
Pre's a little bit light, should be a fold, but I like raising better than calling on the flop if villain's aggro/C-bets a lot, and I'm never doing anything but bet/calling on the turn.
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04-13-2010 , 07:35 PM
I actually don't have any problem with the way the hand is played. Maybe raise more on flop.

Turn is a call vs. an unknown but it doesn't take much to convince me otherwise here.
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04-13-2010 , 08:32 PM
Your almost at a spot where you have to call solely on the pot odds. You need 28% to BE and if your straight is your only outs then you have 20% of pot so if he is ever semi-bluffing then your great or has J9 here then your looking at around 32% which makes it close. Your line seems somewhat weak on flop so I could see him shipping a little weak.

Other than that I don't see what else you can do earlier in the hand because without further information it's hard to put him on a hand; I suppose you could sometimes check the turn and call a lot of rivers as assuming he has a straight draw he is drawing roughly 32% and might bluff a lot of rivers thinking you were on same draw.
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04-14-2010 , 01:48 PM
Obv where i am i never folding, just wonder if there is any huge misstakes from me in the hand.


FishHater calls [$11404.87 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 2d ]
PyrRollinA shows [5c, 4c 5h 4d ]
FishHater wins $0.00 USD from main pot
PyrRollinA wins $42044.74 USD from main pot


Now what u think of his play?
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04-14-2010 , 01:54 PM
His play is great
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04-14-2010 , 01:54 PM
On the loose/thin side of standard, but definitely more standard than yours.
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04-14-2010 , 02:29 PM
Thoughts on checking the turn? Probably bad, but I slow down pretty easy with top two when someone calls my reraise on the flop on a fairly dry board and I pick up nut outs.
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