Dunno

You are laying frames by telling them instead just living them.
Therefore you are allways on this mindsets. This egothing where you are trying to be someone anyways.

At the end of the day we will never know. We will or will not believe.
You seem to value something called imagination to much bro.

I also thought i am somebody till i realised the earth is just a period on the sunbeam.
Therefore you cant imagine how unimportant everything is.

CBT- I have seen 500k+ 30 day graphs with winnings, I have seen plenty of 15-30k hand winning single sessions posted. On these forums.

There are plenty of chinese plo5 and plo10 grinders doing this in games, or there was.

I don't have any particular references to mid stakes plo though in memory, but it has be proven as not so great a task due to the even more unlikely takes that have been performed outside of midstakes plo. I am the only one to know my online SN, it is -ev for it to be otherwise, unless a +ev situation presents itself, and I have snap refused a $1k offer already. My SN is directly connected to my true identity and with it being the internet and all I don't really see any motivation to tell strangers. I know peoples SN's from these forums but imo that was not a smart thing to do and I have used that information in my combat with them.

Benni-I do level ont he forums, I do troll on the forums, every day life is trolling ons ome level, I am not anybody, you are semi-correct but also semi-false. I am not the grinder I use to be, i am not the grinder I will be, but I know what I have and have not done. Maybe it's slowed down now but before there was all sorts of this stuff happening, just not in PLO. I am ignorant, I have not tried doing this myself, but I know I have grinded way more than 450k hands in 45 days with a $ profit on more than one occasion and I know others have too (rakeback grinders). It is not the volume aspect which is an issue. Again just look at all the **** that people have to do in the world, most of the bet is just about lifestyle and daily routine.

Anyway I take leave, I have nothing to add and the thread is getting derailed. Just to make sure I am not deluded, i will try some of these things (it has been years since I was grinding mass tables), I actually appreciate the grind motivation from this discussion.

Mtfish, are you Belgian?

lmao


i've been to the world your living in before fishnoob, its a helluva place man, i hope to return one day


those damn chinese 5plo grinders putting in 500k hand months up 1k bi's tho

I've played a lot of online poker, and this sounds close to impossible!

Feel like at 100-1 I'd prolly still be better off throwing my money at a wall and hoping a few $ stuck to it.

Fun to sweat though so GL

I think azn is more pc then Chinese chaps.

Any news on this prop bet progressingments?

Don't miss out on the opportunity again .
Get your **** and you savings together and try this urubu's challenge so you can get the stupid high odds to work for you

Still looking for concrete action.

And an escrow.

And more existentialism from MtFN.

Just did 6 zoom tables, 4 plo100 and 2 plo200, for 2 hours, I was doing this one handed with 6 tiled because I was watching porn on the other monitor and I was having to browse through the videos aswell because I usually only watch a video for about 45 seconds before moving on, there just ain't many nice porno girls. Got 1712 hands made ~200$. If I had my other hand and my actions and thoughts were soley used on poker, I think I should have got > 1900 hands. This is with half decent quick folding. Next I will try 4 zooms with as many regular tables as I'm allowed to see what hourly hand rate I get there, and I will try with 5 zooms and stack of regs. Honestly 6 zooms was not taxing, i'm not bragging or anything, it just is not taxing and I'm still check raising and calling down bluffs and inducing and all that jazz. 5 x 2 hour sessions a day of 6 zooms will get close to the required volume. That can be straining i suppose for 45 days, you can get ill or something, you won't have much social life, but there are way to make it easier.

Without zoom, I would say this was close to impossible. The games just aren't running enough, and you will have to put longer sessions in because of the waiting list , so you don't get the breaks.

OmahaDonk you have not really clarified the specific rules and the odds. I fyou are doing this without zoom then I can imagine lots of people betting against, I can imagine them bettign against anyway because apparently its super duper hard to play 11k hands a day

Putting in the plo100 probably makes the bet easier than the zoom, because you can just play some sessions mass tabling 100 for stupid amounts of time just to get hands in then play 3/6 ante tables in lower volume.

Putting in heads up would still be suicide, but it does offer more covert opportunities for chip dumping. Not saying you would, but just saying.

Imo the rules should be: 1 stake with zoom , or any mid stakes with zoom but you have to have a positive bb/100 winrate as someone suggested earlier. If you remove zoom then maybe you could get 10:1, looking at the lobby it really does mean you won't get any sleep because there aren't enough games running.

Mtfn son, I am disappoint.
Long time ago you argued on this forum that porn is bad for you for a lot of reasons that I won't go into details now, and that you was porn free. At the time I was intrigued but didn't have the drive to try. Now, few years later, I am 8 months porn free and feel better than ever sexually. And here I read that you are back into porn this saddens me

That's my offer at 5:1

The construction goes on.
Why in the world creating an illusion on an illusional world.

Reality is just to cruel i guess. You seem to try to hard bro.
Just reveal who you are. Everything else doesnt matter.

why would someone waste so much time trying to prove that this bet is easy or doable ,
why don't you take the bet man , tons of money to be made...

I have watched a lifetime of free porn and also feel great. I'm sorry you have only discovered it in the last 8 months but that means you have a lot of excellent material to see for the first time.

I think he would get at least 100 k of action on 1 - 3 odds.
Should be lifetime changing money.

It is your chance fishnoob.

What kinda odds can I get on goin porn free for the next 45 days?

Pm to book.

I'll wear a webcam on my schlong and everything !!

Which? 1 stake or multi stake? Because it seems like you will end up playing 4 zoom 200 and then the rest in normal 200 tables if you do this smartly.

I am only concerned about how the bet is going to be judged, it would require a stars representative sending 45 days worth of hands to at least two judges and the histories will need scrutinized with a fine tooth combo. It would not be difficult for a team of people to chip dump money keeping the winrate above 0.

I can't do this bet, I don't have the time and If I did wouldn't want to risk my roll on it playing so much midstakes, it is pretty much 50/50 if your winrate will be positive or negative. I would maybe consider a bet over 1 week and at lower stakes sometimes this year.but this thread is not the place for such discussion (but I am curious say 140k hands in one week at what stake = what odds are being layed? I can't imagine 80k hands getting any action)

Kelenl i was never against porn, I always argued porn could be very productive if used correctly. The problem is something else, And yes I ahve been degenerating recently, ty for the reminder

50-50 getting 5:1 odds sounds pretty good to me... you could also ask for a stake if you don't wanna risk it all...

anyways i don't mean to insult anyone it's just that it seems pretty weird to me... if i thought that this bet was easy i would snap take it without trying to make people second guessing about the odds they are giving...

Damn I gotta get in on this!

Have one of these dudes on the podcast.

+1 def find one of this guy on podcast, can't figure out how its real

I will fly to China if I have to


I've never heard of these 5plo/10plo chinese grinders that put in 500k hand months, mtfish seems to know, maybe he can put me in touch with them

must be them darn shaolin monks, sucking all the money out of the micros...

There are chinese grinders palying like 6 games of WoW to mine gold for like 1$/hour. This is way harder than mass volume plo5. In the times I was busto and building back up, there was this particular one who really ****ing irritated me, he would play as many hands as me so we was both on all the same tables day in day out. This was on full tilt pre black friday. I don't know if they are about nowadays, I assume they just move up after a few months and play less tables. PLO25 players are total ****ing ballers in china I'm guessing.

Just to put the volume thing in perspective::

http://www.ted.com/talks/lisa_kristi...&utm_campaign=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF8jUDzz5bE

links to such documentaries and articles to convince us that chinese ppl would grind 5plo are really lame bro! WTF!!


in b4 massive volume grinders from sierra leone owning plo2 here is some proof :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uGiwVdGT6w