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Old 03-22-2019, 06:59 AM   #276
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Re: The old pokerstars PLO botring, this time on WPN

ripli new confirmed bot
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:15 AM   #277
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Re: The old pokerstars PLO botring, this time on WPN

This is fun trying to exploit the bots. They have some big leaks for sure
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:54 AM   #278
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Pushkan and Blimey are playing the same 25PL table, probably sharing cards
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:28 PM   #279
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This is fun trying to exploit the bots. They have some big leaks for sure
The shortstack strategy against them is laughably easy. That is why I try to stay short. More complex strategy is needed for deepstack exploit, as they will start to float check raises in position with gutters ect when very deep. Also, one thing I have noticed is that the bots are very price elastic in certain situations and completely inelastic in others. I don't want to mention which, because I am concerned the bot developer will adjust.
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Old 03-23-2019, 07:30 PM   #280
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Pushkan and Blimey are playing the same 25PL table, probably sharing cards
Almost every table has 2-4 bots from 4am EST- 8PM EST every single day.

WINNING_TD, Phil Nagy and the rest of the WPN staff and sponsored pros should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this nonsense to go on and being complicit in this immense crime being carried out against the customers of WPN.
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Old 03-24-2019, 12:06 AM   #281
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Re: The old pokerstars PLO botring, this time on WPN

That really sucks that they're not taking any action, even when the bots are holecard sharing. I had to leave some great tables yesterday because I wasn't sure I could beat them with 2 colluders in the game :/
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Old 03-24-2019, 12:23 AM   #282
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That really sucks that they're not taking any action, even when the bots are holecard sharing. I had to leave some great tables yesterday because I wasn't sure I could beat them with 2 colluders in the game :/
I try to avoid tables with 2+ bots, but sometimes it is unavoidable. I'd probably avoid bluffing them when there is 2+ at the table as they can make more accurate calls/
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Old 03-24-2019, 01:29 AM   #283
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Re: The old pokerstars PLO botring, this time on WPN

It seems like they don't sit the no limit omaha tables so I've been playing those, but they don't run that often :/
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Old 03-24-2019, 02:06 AM   #284
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It seems like they don't sit the no limit omaha tables so I've been playing those, but they don't run that often :/
They play NL OMAHA, many bot there.
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Old 03-24-2019, 09:53 PM   #285
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Re: The old pokerstars PLO botring, this time on WPN

XXXXXXXXXXXXX new confirmed bot

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Old 03-26-2019, 07:29 AM   #286
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XXXXXXXXXXXXX new confirmed bot
I am now not 100% sure, I think I jumped the gun on fingering this account, sample size was under 500 hands, player was at 5/10 no rathole table tonight, which leads me to believe that it is NOT a bot. I will update after more data comes in.

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Old 03-26-2019, 12:01 PM   #287
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Re: The old pokerstars PLO botring, this time on WPN

So everytime you say 'confirmed bot' it actually only means you think the account might be perhaps be a bot maybe. Makes everything you say untrustworthy imo.
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Old 03-26-2019, 02:30 PM   #288
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Re: The old pokerstars PLO botring, this time on WPN

Can any poster share EV diff of confirmed bot accounts vs population? If they do share hole cards, their EV line should be much lower than actual $ won.
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Old 03-26-2019, 09:59 PM   #289
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So everytime you say 'confirmed bot' it actually only means you think the account might be perhaps be a bot maybe. Makes everything you say untrustworthy imo.
I usually post that after around 1000 hands with statistics that are not seen in any human regulars. If I had to wait until 20k+ hands, that would allow the bots to get awayw with what they are doing, which is rapidly cycling through accounts, cranking out 2-5 new accounts per week on average. The two main stats I look for are multiway flop cbet, float flop. If I see a player that is from Russia, playing a bizzare strategy that is virutally identical to the bot strategy, I have to assume it is a bot until proven otherwise. Noresist may still very well be a bot, I'm just not sure at this point. I have seen only one human player that had these stats anywhere close to the bot ranges, and other stats were nowhere near bot frequencies. There are also many other other stats that I haven't even mentioned that I use to determine bots, fSteal for example. All of the other player names I have posted are 100% confirmed bots. Clearly you haven't looked at any of the data I post. Go on statname.net, look up any of the players I have accused in this thread and see for yourself. It doesn't matter if I am untrustworthy or what your opinion is of me, because the data is out there for anyone to see.

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Old 03-26-2019, 10:07 PM   #290
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Can any poster share EV diff of confirmed bot accounts vs population? If they do share hole cards, their EV line should be much lower than actual $ won.
I constructed a player alias in holdem manager, they are thousands and thousands and thousands over ev over 1m+ hands. This also explains why they are so eager to stack off with 68th percentile or worse hands for 100+ bb preflop in some instances. Human regulars are not 4betting K998ss, 9542ds (bottom 68 percentile), ect. button vs BB for 100+bb effective either.

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Old 03-27-2019, 01:12 AM   #291
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Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $194.00 (VPIP: 33.22, PFR: 23.52, 3Bet Preflop: 7.03, Hands: 41,524)
Hero (SB): $80.26
BB: $100.00 (VPIP: 25.46, PFR: 17.86, 3Bet Preflop: 10.06, Hands: 163,457)
UTG: $100.00 (VPIP: 36.83, PFR: 21.54, 3Bet Preflop: 5.21, Hands: 120,354)
CO: $52.20 (VPIP: 28.05, PFR: 17.05, 3Bet Preflop: 5.50, Hands: 17,920)

Hero posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has 2 Q A Q

fold, fold, BTN raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $8.50, fold, BTN raises to $25.50, Hero raises to $76.50, BTN raises to $194.00 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.76 and is all-in

Flop: ($161.52, 2 players) 4 6 7

Turn: ($161.52, 2 players) J

River: ($161.52, 2 players) T

BTN shows 5 7 3 9 (Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 41%, Flop 92%, Turn 100%)
Hero shows 2 Q A Q (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 59%, Flop 8%, Turn 0%)
BTN wins $158.52

$0.24 was deducted from the pot for the jackpot.


There was a 2nd bot at the table during this hand as well.
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Old 03-27-2019, 09:09 AM   #292
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Re: The old pokerstars PLO botring, this time on WPN

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Old 03-29-2019, 02:27 AM   #293
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Almost every table has 2-4 bots from 4am EST- 8PM EST every single day.

WINNING_TD, Phil Nagy and the rest of the WPN staff and sponsored pros should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this nonsense to go on and being complicit in this immense crime being carried out against the customers of WPN.

It's been this way for a long long time.
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Old 03-29-2019, 08:16 PM   #294
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Re: The old pokerstars PLO botring, this time on WPN

I asked them to switch my account from rewards to rakeback 4 times over the last week and they still haven't done it even though they keep saying they did, I'm done with this ****ty site. I will go play elsewhere.
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Old 03-31-2019, 04:11 AM   #295
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WPN halted my withdrawal and wants all of this arcane information about when my last deposit was, etc. that they bury in their "financial history" section below every cash in and cash out from every table. Trying to do anything they can to keep the money on their bot infested site, pathetic.
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Old 03-31-2019, 04:22 AM   #296
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WPN halted my withdrawal and wants all of this arcane information about when my last deposit was, etc. that they bury in their "financial history" section below every cash in and cash out from every table. Trying to do anything they can to keep the money on their bot infested site, pathetic.

I'd send them an email requesting a financial record in excel format. I did this when I was preparing my taxes.
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Old 03-31-2019, 11:32 AM   #297
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Toughie new bot
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Old 04-01-2019, 04:00 PM   #298
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Re: The old pokerstars PLO botring, this time on WPN

Just saw this. I play with these guys pretty much every day. I’m a bad/losing mid stakes player that uses online to practice for live games. Haven’t read the whole thread yet, but anyone know if RePaTs is a bot?

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Old 04-01-2019, 04:17 PM   #299
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Ty bro

A couple mid/high stakes bot names:

PortgasAceAce
Ropedancer
TeslaM77
BurningManKK
wolf_DDDDOG
temerarious5
Kigdin
glowworm
Funny cuz I’ve found all of these guys to be retardedly aggro in some bizarre spots. This now makes much more sense.
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Old 04-01-2019, 05:47 PM   #300
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Just saw this. I play with these guys pretty much every day. Iím a bad/losing mid stakes player that uses online to practice for live games. Havenít read the whole thread yet, but anyone know if RePaTs is a bot?

- Cuatro
I played with him a fair bit up until around this time last year and I didn't consider he could be a bot.
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